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Dokic is playing too much

I was very surprised to see that Jelena Dokic is playing this week in Strasbourg. Why? Because this will be her 31st tournament on the computer.

I think this is way too much tennis. I've seen some posts on here about how Jelena is starting to burn out. I can see why...her schedule has been so crazy over the past year.

Between May 28 and October 7 of last year, Jelena played in events for 19 straight tour weeks, including three two-week Grand Slam events. After a one-week break, she played the final three weeks of the season.

For the first 10 weeks of the season, she only played for three weeks during the indoor season. But since then, starting with Indian Wells, she has played every week, save the week of April 22...and there was no WTA tournament that week.

What is her motivation for doing so? I can't really see any...does anyone have any thoughts on this? Also, what does everyone think about her playing so much? She obviously has the right to do so, but it can't be good for either her health, or her tennis.
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Of course she's playing too much. Heck, I think 17 is possibly too much.
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If we ever have one of those chat thingys we have to ask why she's playing so much. I mean, she has to have a reason. Sometimes I feel like just going up and socking her in the face, because she's so talented and is just threatining her year, or perhaps her whole career.
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She is playing too much. And I think if she has an injury she should take some rest so it can heal because now she has problems in many tournaments and her results aren't as they should be. I think she has improved a lot since a few years. Last year she had good results but this year she has problems with her health.
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i don't think she plays too much. most of the other girls when they're not playing matches will be training hard on the practice court, in the gym. it's not like they've got their feet up in front of TV for a week.

Jelena has obviously discovered that she prefers to work out on the court, that the practice is good for her strokes, that the very regular competition is good for matchplay and confidence, and that this earns her points and prize money.

she's had some injuries recently, but look at some of the others who don't injure themselves during matches.

she'll change her schedule if she finds it too much. but at the moment let's assume it's what she figures is best. only she knows.
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whatever, 31 tournaments is insane, and Jelena withdraws injured from a match and plays the following week.

Certainly Jelena doesn't know what's better for her, it's not paying off, she is getting injured more and more frequent and she is threatening her whole career.

Plus, playing isn't the same as training, there is a huge difference.
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of course she's playing too much. that's like so obvious.

on the other hand there are players like Kafelnikov who use playing as a form of training. if this is what Dokic is trying to do -- after all, some players hate going to the gym and doing all that strength work -- then she has to ask herself if her approach is working given her many injuries and withdrawals. IMO, it's not.

of course many believe that Kafelnikov is motivated purely by the $$$ and that all that talk about playing-as-training is pure rationalization.
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post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old May 23rd, 2002, 01:06 AM
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I've wondered if this some Eastern European thing. I can't think of one Russian female who plays a sane schedule, and many players from former communist nations follow suit.

Monica Seles was one exception of course, but sometimes I think the Russians(and Dokic) would do better in slams if they wern't so overplayed.
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My personal opinion is that Jelena is trying to compensate for missing Oz and all those ranking points.

That said she ought to have racked up enough points by now. Of course, she's had some really big wins this year which I think doesn't help her to slow down.

That run of three (?) consecutive finals at the end of last year losing to Davenport perhaps has just given her too much confidence. Maybe she thinks that she can have those kind of results week in week out ?????

It does sadden me that she beat Monica and Justine and both times had to retire in her next match - I mean it's good that she's having these breakthroughs (and by her previous results, those are huge wins) but if she can't back them up then she's not really endearing herself to the crowds.

Calm down please Jelena.

I'm sure Jay will have something to say about this topic ...
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I read in yesterday's paper Carl Maes, Kim's coach, has presented a new plan to the WTA. Only 14 or 15 tournaments should be counted in the rankings and there should be a limit to the number of tournaments a player plays a year, he suggested 22.

He said it would also prevent players who play one third of matches more then the other players, like Dokic, to get in the top 10.

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If she can handle the traveling, then I don't see what's the problem. She has had a number of early losses/withdrawals due to injury, so matchwise she hasn't been doing much more than anyone else...


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Dokic is playing too much

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Funny, cause I was just taking about this last night!!

I think Kart, is correct she is trying to make up those OZ points. I also, think she is playing way too much, and is acting foolishly right about now. Sheesh,she is in danger of adding onto a serious injury onto to her body, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if she pulls out of the French Open sometime or another, due to her getting injured.

Slow down, Jelena and relax your body.

kid's got talent, and drive, she just needs to relax that body.

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