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The Bodo & Wertheim should go bowling & shut the *#?! up thread

Am I the only one who thinks both of these guys are completely useless?

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old Mar 20th, 2006, 02:43 AM
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I like them. Sometimes I think they're fucking morons, but I like their commentary for the most part.
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Bozo and Werthless?
I generally seem to be hard on tennis journalists, these 2 are no exception
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Bozo and Werthless?
I generally seem to be hard on tennis journalists, these 2 are no exception
Niether guy is ever gonna be in the same class as a Bud Collins. So I guess let em be.........
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Niether guy is ever gonna be in the same class as a Bud Collins. So I guess let em be.........
well the old man wrote yesterday that Maria won the IW title on her birthday
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Niether guy is ever gonna be in the same class as a Bud Collins. So I guess let em be.........

I think Bud Collings fucking SUCKS. Those little trivia tidbits about tennis he's always spouting are far less interesting and analytical than what Bodo and Wertheim write.

Ryan is right, sometimes those guys can be morons, but for the most part they are providing useful information to readers.
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I'm not a big Wertheim fan but I don't think it's fair to lump him in with Bozo. He's nowhere near that dumb, senile, and annoying.
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I'm not a big Wertheim fan but I don't think it's fair to lump him in with Bozo. He's nowhere near that dumb, senile, and annoying.
I don't think Bodo is stupid... just very very bitter about something.

He hates everyone on tour.

Wetheim isn't so bad, he just has no clue.

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I don't think Bodo is stupid... just very very bitter about something.

He hates everyone on tour.

Wetheim isn't so bad, he just has no clue.
Bodo just tries to be 'edgy' and 'controversial'. It doesn't come across too well. Wertheim is ok, but he has not real long history with tennis, he tends to lack perspective and his technical observations tend to be erraneous.

Oh, here's a piece I recently wrote about Bodo:
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Many tennis fans are surely familiar with Tennis Magazine's
blogger/columnist, Peter Bodo. Surely he is one of the most esteemed
commentators of the game, so with some interest I noted his recent take
on Kim Clijsters, one of the most well-liked players on WTA:

That Kim, She Sooo Nice. . .

Quote:
"Remember, this girl has been a major-league choker. I think that if she
enters a tournament without an injury, she’s going to come up with one very
quickly. She needs the crutch of injury to take pressure off herself. And it
gives her a built-in excuse in the event she does lose."

Oh, and here's another, just few days afterwards:
Glad You Asked. . .

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"You would think that if she's forking out a quarter-of-a-million dollars
to thank her fans, she'd have something to say about it. Oh, sorry! She's
just being extra-nice and modest, right. . . "

(That one earned Mr Bodo a title of "Tier VIII analyst" by certain other
Finnish tennis expert).

And here is a third one, week after the second:
The Pied Piper of Boozer Nation

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"This whole excercise, this whole, orchestrated, ham-fisted
tiresome self-promotion (Look at me! Look how nice, nice, nice I am!)
and hollow pandering to the fan base in such a giant, corporate,
self-serving, cross-promotional way makes my teeth ache. "

Anyone sense a theme here? Like, "Kim just pretends to be nice,
she's actually evil bitchy mastermind behind all her facade" -theme?
But okay, lets assume Peter Bodo is correct about this assumption.
It's certainly not impossible. But glancing through the evidence doesn't
exactly make a strong case. First entry mentions Clijsters playing nice
with apparently a former drug lord. However, mysteriously, that doesn't seem
to lead to anything, with Bodo admitting later that he doesn't have further
information. Last two entries concern Kim's champagne party at
Antwerp. After thorough digging of all available evidence and material,
he comes to stunning conclusion that the champagne party is actually
a publicity stunt! No, really? I can totally see why they pay this
guy.
Make no mistake, last two entries are telling. But they aren't telling
about Kim's personality.
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They are :retard: :retard: :retard:

Add Larry Scott to the bowling package! :retard: He's not a "journalist" though.
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Bodo just tries to be 'edgy' and 'controversial'. It doesn't come across too well. Wertheim is ok, but he has not real long history with tennis, he tends to lack perspective and his technical observations tend to be erraneous.

Anyone sense a theme here? Like, "Kim just pretends to be nice,
she's actually evil bitchy mastermind behind all her facade" -theme?
But okay, lets assume Peter Bodo is correct about this assumption.
It's certainly not impossible. But glancing through the evidence doesn't
exactly make a strong case. First entry mentions Clijsters playing nice
with apparently a former drug lord. However, mysteriously, that doesn't seem
to lead to anything, with Bodo admitting later that he doesn't have further
information. Last two entries concern Kim's champagne party at
Antwerp. After thorough digging of all available evidence and material,
he comes to stunning conclusion that the champagne party is actually
a publicity stunt! No, really? I can totally see why they pay this
guy.
Make no mistake, last two entries are telling. But they aren't telling
about Kim's personality.


you are singling out the absolute worst pieces Bodo has written since he started his blog though. He's written a couple hundred posts. Of course a few of them are going to suck. I mean, he's definitely a crackpot. You've got to take the bad with the good.

As for Wertheim i agree that he still comes off as a tennis novice sometimes in his column, but that isn't entirely a bad thing. I daresay he's got a bit of wtaworld poster in him.
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you are singling out the absolute worst pieces Bodo has written since he started his blog though. He's written a couple hundred posts. Of course a few of them are going to suck.
Isn't that exactly what he did with Kim?

Besides, it's not like this is the only instance. He was unnecessarily harsh on JHH too on AO final fiasco. I mean, I like reading him most of the time but there's no question in my mind that he deliberately tries to stir the pot.

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As for Wertheim i agree that he still comes off as a tennis novice sometimes in his column, but that isn't entirely a bad thing. I daresay he's got a bit of wtaworld poster in him.
...which is a good thing because...?

On a plus side, Wertheim is at least funny most of the time.
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