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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old Feb 9th, 2006, 12:16 PM Thread Starter
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Recently much has been written about the Hingis comeback and almost everyone agrees that she is very talented. However all these things written in the media seems to have gone too far because in most of these articles we see statements such as "compared to Hingis, X is just another mindless ball basher" or "compared to Hingis, Y only survives because of her fighting spirit". We've read these comments for Clijsters, Pierce, Dementieva, Sharapova...

I like Hingis but I don't agree with all this degrading of all other players' talents just to praise her.
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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old Feb 9th, 2006, 12:20 PM
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Just pay attention of those who'll just read the title.

I think Hingisget a lot of compliment because she has a great comeback now, and back at the days, people were amazed on how she managed to play her unpowered but smart game against the biggies, and still survive. I mean, yeah, the girl just know how to put the ball, period.
But i feel you. There's other players waiting for nice articles.

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Recently much has been written about the Hingis comeback and almost everyone agrees that she is very talented. However all these things written in the media seems to have gone too far because in most of these articles we see statements such as "compared to Hingis, X is just another mindless ball basher" or "compared to Hingis, Y only survives because of her fighting spirit". We've read these comments for Clijsters, Pierce, Dementieva, Sharapova...

I like Hingis but I don't agree with all this degrading of all other players' talents just to praise her.
You make a valid point. It's soooo refreshing to see a thinker back on the court, but there are other players who have much better serves and other shots than Hingis. There isn't anyone who uses all the shots with such mind-blowing precision as Hingis, though. I think what is really happening is that the power players who have never seen her play before are seeing a reflection of what their own games could be like if they added more cognitive thought to the power and placement.

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R we talking current and retired players or just current?

Hingis is extremely talented.....

Patty is another player who is extremely talented........

Mauresmo is extremely talented.....

JHH is very talented.......

Venus is very talented.......

Most top players if not all are very talented the difference is that Hingis is the smartest.....she can work out a game plan on court....

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since when do finesse players become the only players with talent? Whether you want to believe it or not, playing a power game is rather difficult and you need alot of talent for that too regardless or how well you can slice, serve & volley or hit topspin lobs.

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My favorite here on the board is when some player has a bad serve and little power, suddently, "she plays like Hingis." Huh?

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well "a mindless ball basher" killed her on sunday

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There are players with a huge talent but waste it : Daniela Hantuchova ( Never worked on her mental weaknesses ), Jelena Dokic ( 6-7 years ago described as a very talented girl : see where she is : terrible ) and I Have to forget some others...

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A few points. First, remember, it is not Hingis or even Hingis fans making these comments, they are coming from the media.

And the media tends to be very trendy. Reporters jump on the bandwagon all the time for one reason or another.

I think there are obviously some problems with the power game, though, and one result of it has been the massive number of injuries that have plagued the sport in recent years. Indeed, our latest slam singles champion may be the first in history to have had three of her seven opponents retire during their matches.

Another issue is that Hingis' brand of tennis appears to require more skill, because of the massive numbers of unforced errors connected to power tennis, with as many as 20 UE's per set being common for some players.

Finally, there is pure excitement factor, which is certainly open to dispute. I will agree that sometimes hitting a cold winner on the second or third stroke looks impressive, just as smashing an ace on the serve looks impressive.

But it has always struck me that what gets tennis fans out of their seats and on their feet cheering are the complicated points when both players are scurrying all over the court, running side to side or baseline to net or both, all in one point.

This may be a generational thing and there are those who say the new generation has a much shorter attention span and prefers short points, because they always want to move on to the next thrill.

Hingis is sort of a throw back to an early time and what is interesting is whether or not many others can play her way, or does it take a player with Martina Hingis' talent to get by in the era of power tennis? We'll have to see.
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In my opinion all lets say top 20 players are talented with the top being even more... Considering how many people on this earth play the game and how many players are at this top you cannnot say that any of the top 10/20 are untalented.

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you cannnot say that any of the top 10/20 are untalented.
No but their hit or miss style of play is boring to watch though.
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well "a mindless ball basher" killed her on sunday
You're missing the point. borisy is pointing out that there are talented players who are denegrated simply because Hingis plays such a cerebral form of tennis. He's stating that there aren't as many mindless ball bashers as people think.
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since when do finesse players become the only players with talent? Whether you want to believe it or not, playing a power game is rather difficult and you need alot of talent for that too regardless or how well you can slice, serve & volley or hit topspin lobs.
Read the original post. Then think it over. Then re-write what you posted.
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