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Is Serena as good as once thought?

This is not a hate thread. I have always loved Serena Williams for her talent and how she won 4 consecutive slams. I am very impressed by that. But to be considered as one of the top athletes in today's game, you have to stay healthy. I am sad to say that I'm doubting Serena's position as a "top player" in today's game. She has played 20 tournaments in the past two years and has been constantly plagued by injuries, and their have been doubts about her commitment to tennis. I'm starting to lose respect for her. She needs to start working out and eating healthy; it's the only way to stay healthy. I know she is already aware that stretching is necessary before matches and practice, so why are there so many strains and such things? I'm really worried about her. I hope she will realize that if she doesn't start "getting it together" that she will fall out of the Top THIRTY! Get in better shape, and play more tournaments. I don't understand why she has fallen so far from what she was in 2002. Please get better Serena! We all miss your dedication and determination!
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If Serena never wins another match, she will still be considered one of the greats of this sport. She's happy and MAYBE she could do a little more to prepare herself for her matches, but the truth is none of us really knows how dedicated she is or how much these injuries really are affecting her. She's a smart woman, she's come back from injuries before, and she's won 7 majors, I think she deserves the benefit of the doubt.

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well it's 4 years later. it's hard to keep up the same level for that long.

hopefully she'll be healthy again.

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Me too. She is one of the most talented women's players in the history of the game and I would hate for her to waste it. COME BACK STRONG SERENA.

I have my doubts but I also know that this is Serena we are talking about...an inner-strength that very few possess.
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@ losing respect for Serena.
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Yeah what's going on now isn't Serena-like. But I have a feeling she'll get it together soon.
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Me too. She is one of the most talented women's players in the history of the game and I would hate for her to waste it. COME BACK STRONG SERENA.

I have my doubts but I also know that this is Serena we are talking about...an inner-strength that very few possess.

I don't understand the whole 'wasting" her talent arguement. We should call it what it really is and say Serena isn't doing what YOU want her to do.

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If Serena never wins another match, she will still be considered one of the greats of this sport. She's happy and MAYBE she could do a little more to prepare herself for her matches, but the truth is none of us really knows how dedicated she is or how much these injuries really are affecting her. She's a smart woman, she's come back from injuries before, and she's won 7 majors, I think she deserves the benefit of the doubt.
those are my sentiments exactly
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Have you been on the practice courts? Do you know her real dedication to tennis? If you do, fine make a judgement. But I'm betting you don't, so don't lose respect for someone over an assumption. She got injured, and then got out of shape because of the injury. She's coming back into form and into shape, and that commands respect, when she could have walked away from the game before this with enough money and her place in history cemented.

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Yeah what's going on now isn't Serena-like. But I have a feeling she'll get it together soon.
If not now, when? Some of us have been saying that about Serena since 2004.

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It's hard to be as good as once thought, when you've got a number of debilitating injuries that would have slain lesser women.

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I don't understand the whole 'wasting" her talent arguement. We should call it what it really is and say Serena isn't doing what YOU want her to do.
exactly!!!

"She's not dedicated to tennis enough" argument as well is the same as "Serena's not doing what I want her to do" as well.
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Starting to lose respect? Seems like you've already lost it which brings to question what you respected in the first place. Serena's slams, her flair, determination and extras she's brought and continues to bring to the game shouldn't be in question or marked down because she's not in her cat suit condition or hasn't produced another Serena Slam. Who currently even comes close? No one. Serena won those slams, count them 7, you don't win slams by not being good, or great. Respect goes to Serena because it is commanded. Goodness take some perspective with this need to find fault. Serena is the tennis player, she's the champion and the one who knows what she needs to do to get those wins that are so important; some of this concern, especially that coming from some ill will or negative emotion definitely shows that the loudest and most consistent aren't necessarily out for the welfare of the subject.

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I think Serena can still win more slams

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This is not a hate thread. I have always loved Serena Williams for her talent and how she won 4 consecutive slams. I am very impressed by that. But to be considered as one of the top athletes in today's game, you have to stay healthy. I am sad to say that I'm doubting Serena's position as a "top player" in today's game. She has played 20 tournaments in the past two years and has been constantly plagued by injuries, and their have been doubts about her commitment to tennis. I'm starting to lose respect for her. She needs to start working out and eating healthy; it's the only way to stay healthy. I know she is already aware that stretching is necessary before matches and practice, so why are there so many strains and such things? I'm really worried about her. I hope she will realize that if she doesn't start "getting it together" that she will fall out of the Top THIRTY! Get in better shape, and play more tournaments. I don't understand why she has fallen so far from what she was in 2002. Please get better Serena! We all miss your dedication and determination!
of course it's not a hate thread, but there's no doubt that it will turn into one.
you've been here long enough to know that.

anyway, Serena is certainly not the player she was 3-4 years ago. if i said she was, i'd be delusional. with that said, last year she was totally out of shape and was able to win a slam when no one expected her to. will she do it again? only time will tell…

unlike you, I can't lose respect for her.
i’ve seen improvement in her physique this year and she's apparently working hard to get into top form. you have no idea what she’s eating or if she working out so you’re in no place to say she “needs” to do anything.

every player goes through slumps. Venus did it, Lindsay did it, Jennifer did it...did you lose respect for Venus when she was playing poorly too? i seriously doubt you did. Serena’s human. she’s gone through a series of injuries and a personal tragedy. she obviously cares about this game or else she wouldn’t play anymore. she has more than enough money to live comfortably and enough titles to be considered a great, yet she still plays.

Jeez, it’s the beginning of the season; she hasn’t played a match outside an exhibition, and already the theories start flying. But I didn’t expect less from the tennis “fans” here.
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