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Up until now Martina Hingis is the one who has..

Taken the most games against Henin Hardene @Sydney 2006.. Impressive.. especially for the ones that trash talked abput Hingis performance. Martina.
Justine will win the whole thing

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Especially looking at the video of the match, Martina played well. Justine just seems to be back to her old self. With Clijsters questionable, Justine has to be among the top couple AO favourites.
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Especially looking at the video of the match, Martina played well. Justine just seems to be back to her old self. With Clijsters questionable, Justine has to be among the top couple AO favourites.
I saw the clip too, but i have to say Martina played a wrong tactic against Henin. She drew a break in the first set with some forehand errors from Henin, but most of the match she kept going to the backhand, which is a killer shot. That would be like trying to break down Hingis´s own backhand by playing continously to it..
Anyway it was a good effort still Martina, and she can improve, i hope she does.

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Sabatini vs Martinez ?
Seasons in the top ten: Sabatini 10 Conchita 9
Straight Seasons in the top ten: Sabatini 10 Conchita 6
Seasons in the top 5: Sabatini 6 Conchita 5
Straight seasons in the top 5: Sabatini 6 Conchita 4
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Sabatini 24 Martinez 17
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Sabatini has 2 titles 2 Runner up and 3 SF
Martinez has 0 titles, 0 RU, and 0 Sf
Record against the best players
Sabatini 40% Martinez 21%
Head to Head
Sabatini leads 9-6 over Martinez
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I saw the clip too, but i have to say Martina played a wrong tactic against Henin. She drew a break in the first set with some forehand errors from Henin, but most of the match she kept going to the backhand, which is a killer shot. That would be like trying to break down Hingis´s own backhand by playing continously to it..
Anyway it was a good effort still Martina, and she can improve, i hope she does.
The Henin backhand does break down though. If you watch matches where she is not playing her best, the backhands are constantly going into the net. If Justine is rusty or off in any way, it is a good idea to attack the backhand. She had improved the forehand in recent years, and it may be the much less showy shot, but it tends to be more consistent.
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The Henin backhand does break down though. If you watch matches where she is not playing her best, the backhands are constantly going into the net. If Justine is rusty or off in any way, it is a good idea to attack the backhand. She had improved the forehand in recent years, and it may be the much less showy shot, but it tends to be more consistent.
I dont really agree with that, also with the forehand Henin mishits a lot, and tends to hit shorter on the court while being attacked, while with the backhand has that powerful shot but also the variety of the slice. Take a closer look at the game that Hingis won breaking Henin´s serve in the first set, you´ll see that it was all Henin´s forehand errors.
Clijsters played a lot to Henin´s forehand in Toronto last year and also Pierce benefited from the short forehand replies at the Usopen 4th round last year.

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Sabatini vs Martinez ?
Seasons in the top ten: Sabatini 10 Conchita 9
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Straight seasons in the top 5: Sabatini 6 Conchita 4
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Sabatini 24 Martinez 17
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Sabatini has 2 titles 2 Runner up and 3 SF
Martinez has 0 titles, 0 RU, and 0 Sf
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Sabatini 40% Martinez 21%
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Sabatini leads 9-6 over Martinez
FWTT Hard 111(111 + ny)Carpet 104(104 + ny)Clay 107(107 + 4) Grass 100(100 ny)
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Taken the most games against Henin Hardene @Sydney 2006.. Impressive.. especially for the ones that trash talked abput Hingis performance. Martina.
Justine will win the whole thing
I agree, and watching the match it could have been so much closer had martina won more of the big points. Justine is looking good and I think she is probably the favourite for the australian open now that kim is doubtful.

Martina was also effected by her hip injury during the match with Justine and was also tired from her efforts at Gold Coast. She'll surely have completely recovered by Monday so should be even better in Melbourne. With all the injuries at the moment certain players will be far from 100% (venus, serena, nadia, kim if she plays) which could help Martina make a good run through the tournament if she draws one of the injured players early, it would open up a nice path to the second week (and give her a hugely impressive looking win against a very big name) and from there who knows?
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But u still have to look at the fact that ,it was justine's first match..so justine might not have been that sharp like her other matches..nevertheless.martina did put up a fight...

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Especially looking at the video of the match, Martina played well. Justine just seems to be back to her old self. With Clijsters questionable, Justine has to be among the top couple AO favourites.
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I think you should have your head examined for delusional schizophrenia. Martina is a great player but one of the past. She is tennis museum material right now.
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The Henin backhand does break down though. If you watch matches where she is not playing her best, the backhands are constantly going into the net. If Justine is rusty or off in any way, it is a good idea to attack the backhand. She had improved the forehand in recent years, and it may be the much less showy shot, but it tends to be more consistent.
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More nasty schizophrenia on your part. The Henin backhand is considered impecable and the best in the business by ALL tennis analysts including John McEnroe who has repeatedly said so, And according to you "it breaks down and are "constantly" into the net". Jesus you are a freak of severe proporions. The way you distort reality is shocking and just because you have become a hothead fanatic of Hingis. No wonder she doesn't care much for having fans. I don't blame her.
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Martina should be happy that she drew Justine in the 1st round
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I saw the clip too, but i have to say Martina played a wrong tactic against Henin. She drew a break in the first set with some forehand errors from Henin, but most of the match she kept going to the backhand, which is a killer shot. That would be like trying to break down Hingis´s own backhand by playing continously to it..
Anyway it was a good effort still Martina, and she can improve, i hope she does.
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Good points Spencercarlos : analytical and objective, and showing tennis savinesss. I proves that you can be a player's fan and still remain clearheaded
wihout distorting reality. Congrats. Your kind is becoming rare in this forum
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I saw the clip too, but i have to say Martina played a wrong tactic against Henin. She drew a break in the first set with some forehand errors from Henin, but most of the match she kept going to the backhand, which is a killer shot. That would be like trying to break down Hingis´s own backhand by playing continously to it..
Anyway it was a good effort still Martina, and she can improve, i hope she does.
quite agree with you, not totally on the backhand stuff but about global shot selection at times. But I guess she needs more match practice to become more confident about this...

Despite quite few missed occasions, this match is encouraging...Hingis definitely can still cope with any power-hitter...She needs to improve her serve, forehand (hit it more flat and offensive more often) and exploit any opportunity to rush to the net...

Despite the game's evolution and her 3-years break, she remains one of the best players...

Good Luck Hingis

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I saw the clip too, but i have to say Martina played a wrong tactic against Henin. She drew a break in the first set with some forehand errors from Henin, but most of the match she kept going to the backhand, which is a killer shot. That would be like trying to break down Hingis´s own backhand by playing continously to it..
Anyway it was a good effort still Martina, and she can improve, i hope she does.
BINGO! Martina will learn from this about Justine. The last time she played Justine, it was a very different backhand. I think Martina was surprised at how well Justine is playing right now and so early in the year.

BTW, I noticed the scores too. I was going to start a thread but thought I'll wait till Justine crushes her final opponent.
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