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Ways to make sure Venus hits at least 15 unforced errors in a match

aim most of your backhands down the middle of the court to stop Venus from hitting on the run. Try to force crosscourt forehand rallies, and avoid crosscourt backhand rallies. Hit every serve to Venus's forehand on the ad side and mix up the serve placement on the deuce side. Neutralize the Venus Williams side to side speed, take away the angles she uses to hit winners, and you will 'force' Venus into hitting 'unforced' errors.
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easier said than done

P.S. how about writing up one for Maria, Lindsay and Justine
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easier said than done

definitely - you have to have great groundstrokes from both sides, you have to be very fast, and you need a consistently well placed serve with good velocity, otherwise Venus is going to dictate play.
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Go right at her. be aggressive and go for your shots before she does. I don't think I've ever seen a match where someone mixed up their shots and it REALLY bothered venus. Schynder kind of did it to venus at Stanford, but I think venus was more tired than anything else in that match I think players are much more effective when they go right at her. Sprem did it at Wimbledon, and I think it's why generally speaking Lindsay's matches with her are always close because Lindsay plays that in your face attacking game.

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easier said than done

P.S. how about writing up one for Maria, Lindsay and Justine
maria and lindsay lead venus head 2 head.

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maria and lindsay lead venus head 2 head.

true but in all honesty, Lindsay only leads the head to head becuase they are counting a Venus retirement or it would be even and I'd rather lose twice, once in Miami and once in some German tournament i can't even remember the name of, then to get spanked in 1 wimbledon semi-final. Wouldn't you?

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maria and lindsay lead venus head 2 head.

You missed the point obviously
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maria and lindsay lead venus head 2 head.

What does that have to do with anything??
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What does that have to do with anything??

You know!! This poster is so quick to defend he didn't get it. That's alright, because I'm sure vogus did
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You know!! This poster is so quick to defend he didn't get it. That's alright, because I'm sure vogus did
Well when you are a hat0r you tend to do things like that.
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by one match each. lol. and odd, how Venus leads them in the "big matches". Venus 1-0 against Sharapova in Slams; Venus 3-0 vs. Lindsay in major finals; 5-4 in Slams
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Watch a few Arantxa and Venus matches Venus won most of their battles, but they had several real close ones, and there were a few sets where Arantxa did a great job of frustrating Venus into loads of errors.

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true but in all honesty, Lindsay only leads the head to head becuase they are counting a Venus retirement or it would be even and I'd rather lose twice, once in Miami and once in some German tournament i can't even remember the name of, then to get spanked in 1 wimbledon semi-final. Wouldn't you?
That is hardly the point. A match is a match, and though some are more important, we are not discussing who's wins we would rather have. The point of showing that Lindsay and Maria have head to head advantages over Venus is to show that this is how you beat her. You have to go at her and try to dictate play. Serena also has a head to head against Venus by playing the same way. Why does Kim and Justine do so poorly against Venus? Because they do not attempt to dictate play against her, they think that they can just retrieve and Venus will hit errors.

Btw, Maria beat Venus in Miami(tier 1) and Zurich(tier 1).

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That is hardly the point. A match is a match, and though some are more important, we are not discussing who's wins we would rather have. The point of showing that Lindsay and Maria have head to head advantages over Venus is to show that this is how you beat her. You have to go at her and try to dictate play. Serena also has a head to head against Venus by playing the same way. Why does Kim and Justine do so poorly against Venus? Because they do not attempt to dictate play against her, they think that they can just retrieve and Venus will hit errors.

Btw, Maria beat Venus in Miami(tier 1) and Zurich(tier 1).

It is the point cause I said it in response to someone saying that Maria and Lindsay were leading the head to head. And the reason you stated for mentioning the head to head was not the reason the poster i responded to mentioned it, but your point is well taken.

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