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This is a question for the experts.

What X optical zoom would you recommend for photographing players during matches? At stadiums like Margaret Court Arena and Vodafone arena, spectators are quite far from the action, and I plan to take some decent photos at next year's open.

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I’m not qualified to answer, except to say I’ve heard that powerful telescopic lenses, aren’t allowed to be used by Joe Public, at certain venues.


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Not being an expert, here's my experience: unless you can get seats closer to the court, the zoom can't "fix" the distance... but I've never been to any of the stadiums you mentionned. I use a 70-300mm that allows nice shots like these at Philippe Chartrier's (RG) but, as I told, my seats weren't that far from the court.





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I was actually meaning front row seats. At these stadiums, front row can be quite a distance is all. My camera only allows 3X optical zoom (39-117mm 35mm equivalent), that is why I am considering purchasing a newer camera, possible a DSLR.

Your photos are absolutely beautiful suzie.

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I was actually meaning front row seats. At these stadiums, front row can be quite a distance is all. My camera only allows 3X optical zoom (39-117mm 35mm equivalent), that is why I am considering purchasing a newer camera, possible a DSLR.

Your photos are absolutely beautiful suzie.
You'll get best results with a DSLR or at least a high quality compact that allows fast shutter speed control. But the compacts obviously don't allow you to interchange lenses.
I use the Nikon D70 with only a 70mm lens at Wimbledon and got some great photos but I was very close to the action.

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You are not allowed to take the professional SLRs into grounds...

I use 36-432 mm 12X OPTICAL ZOOM 3X DIGITAL ZOOM

compact and you can take it in with you....

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Check this one out, it is cheap, it is not professional and the results are great....

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You are not allowed to take the professional SLRs into grounds...
That's annoying Why?

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What X optical zoom would you recommend for photographing players during matches?
You need at least 300mm. Many of the larger venues won't let you bring in lenses this large unless you have a media credential. They are getting stricter on camera policies as time goes on. For example, some digital cameras are equipped with built-in zoom lenses that can go to beyond 300mm. These lenses aren't really that large. They are not those huge, white, Canon, lenses the pros shoot with. The venues in Los Angeles (Staples Center, Home Depot Center) are on the lookout for digitals with these built-in zooms. They won't let you bring in cameras with lenses more than 3.5 inches long!!! That rules out a LOT of cameras. I guess this is a way to protect the pro photographers.
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I think thats rediculous, why should they ban anyone with a decent camera? I am glad that it hasnt got that far over this side of the pond....

i shoot with a Canon EOS 20D, the 70-200L (F4 - remember not to overlook the apature..) and 1.4x Teleconverter. If you are looking for an SLR setup, i couldnt recomend it highly enough, of course its a fairly expensive (comparitivly to a compact) option, but the results are so much better and the control is far greater.

At wimbledon i took some nice shots on centre court from a fair distance (Behind the baseline on the oposite side of the court). I was quite pleased with them, they were shot on middle saturday, and anyone that went that day will tell you there was NO light whatsoever!

However, outside courts are much better for photography as you can actually move around and shoot the angles that you want you arent restricted to your seat and can move about freely, also you are a lot closer!



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Nice pics A_S what ISO did you use?

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Thanks, Beleive it or not they were all on ISO-800, it was a horid day, hehe. You can see the rest of the data in the photos if you are interested, but from what i can remember they were about 1/500-1/800 of a second, on F5.6 (the max apature with the Teleconverter)
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I think thats rediculous, why should they ban anyone with a decent camera? I am glad that it hasnt got that far over this side of the pond....
Not so ridiculous. Decent cameras take the best pictures. Best pictures is what the media need, to sell newspapers and advertising etc. It makes economic sense to charge pro photographers, for profiteering from the organisers tournament. Obviously you can’t then allow others, to potentially do the same from public areas, for no levy. Even if you have no intention of selling photos, you can still upload to sites like this, and that then has the potential to compromise the value of the pros photos.

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I would invest my money into some Canon 'consumer' dSLR. EOS 350D seems the most logical answer since it has the same sensor as 20D and photo quality has been proved to be at the same level (this is not my opinion, check out various reviews at the net). I would think you are allowed to bring it into the AO grounds as this is a non-pro camera. Here are a few bad samples (because of a 15 year old lense):



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Not so ridiculous. Decent cameras take the best pictures. Best pictures is what the media need, to sell newspapers and advertising etc. It makes economic sense to charge pro photographers, for profiteering from the organisers tournament. Obviously you can’t then allow others, to potentially do the same from public areas, for no levy. Even if you have no intention of selling photos, you can still upload to sites like this, and that then has the potential to compromise the value of the pros photos.
Then how is one who hopes to make a career out of photography meant to get a foot on the ladder? If you are to do so you need to practice and get photos to become noticed/build up a portfolio if you ban the cameras someone can do neither.

Anyway from what i know if you were a pro you need a publication or source of accreditation, I don't know what the issue on being charged for that access is, i was under the impression that accreditation was not at a cost, Certainly I KNOW that is the case in other sports, i shoot a lot of motorsport, and its a bloody competitive market, but the public are not banned from using cameras or big lenses its fair game that if someone takes a photo (taking into account copyright issues) that they should be able to sell it, or whatever.

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