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Helen Wills Moody 7 3.57%
Suzanne Lenglen 9 4.59%
Billie Jean King 6 3.06%
Margaret Smith Court 12 6.12%
Chris Evert 15 7.65%
Martina Navratilova 69 35.20%
Evonne Goolagong 5 2.55%
Steffi Graf 77 39.29%
Monica Seles 31 15.82%
Other 23 11.73%
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Greatest Women's Tennis Player of All-Time

Who is the Greatest Women's Tennis Player of All-Time?

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58 Open Era GS titles on all surfaces, and she's a competitive doubles player today, at 48 years old.

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I choose Martina Navratilova and Helen Wills Moody as the Greatest Female Tennis Players of All-Time. I choose them for many reasons. I'll start with Navratilova.
  • 167 singles titles won - 1st all-time
  • 1,438 singles matches won - 1st all-time
  • 109 match winning streak w/ Pam Shriver - 1st all-time
  • 162 doubles titles won - 1st all-time
  • 1000+ doubles matches won - 1st all-time
  • 390 doubles matches won w/ Pam Shriver - 1st all-time
  • Most total titles won
  • 18 Grand Slams in Singles
  • competed against: Court, Graf, Goolagong, Seles, Evert, and the other greats

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Martina - hands down... and I don't even like her

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Originally Posted by LTL
I choose Martina Navratilova and Helen Wills Moody as the Greatest Female Tennis Players of All-Time. I choose them for many reasons. I'll start with Navratilova.
  • 167 singles titles won - 1st all-time
  • 1,438 singles matches won - 1st all-time
  • 109 match winning streak w/ Pam Shriver - 1st all-time
  • 162 doubles titles won - 1st all-time
  • 1000+ doubles matches won - 1st all-time
  • 390 doubles matches won w/ Pam Shriver - 1st all-time
  • Most total titles won
  • 18 Grand Slams in Singles
  • competed against: Court, Graf, Goolagong, Seles, Evert, and the other greats

Great choices LTL.
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Helen Wills
She won 19 slams (and an Olympics) without ever going to Australia.

8 Wimbledons (only lost once at the Championships)
7 US
4 French (won all 4 times she entered)

Helen was undefeated from 1927 to 1933-winning at least 150 straight-a record no one else approaches.
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Steffi Graf heres why:

Why Steffi Graf is the greatest ever.

· Steffi is the ONLY player (man or woman) to have won a Golden Grand Slam - winning the four Grand Slam titles - the Australian Open, the French Open, Wimbledon and the US Open - in a single calendar year - 1988. In that year, Steffi also won the Olympic Gold Medal in Seoul - hence the name Golden Grand Slam.
·Steffi has won her 22 Grand Slam on four different surfaces - Rebound Ace at Flinders Park, Clay at Roland Garros, Grass at Wimbledon and cement Hard Court at Flushing Meadow. This fact, in itself, makes Steffi's Grand Slam unique.
· Steffi is the ONLY player (either male or female) to have won all four of the Grand Slam events at least 4 times.
· Steffi is the ONLY player (either male or female) to have won each of the four Grand Slam events in singles AND TO HAVE SUCCESSFULLY DEFENDED each and every one
· Steffi is one of only two players (either male or female) to have won the French Open and Wimbledon in the same year and to have done so four times. She achieved this in 1988, 1993, 1995 and 1996. Helen Wills Moody did it in 1928, 1929, 1930 and 1932. Bjorn Borg achieved it three times - 1978, 1979 and 1980
· Steffi had already won 7 Wimbledon titles by the age of 27
· It took Steffi only 9 years between her first and her eighteenth Grand Slam titles, while it took Margaret Court 11 years, and Chris Evert and Martina Navratilova 13 years each.
· Steffi holds the record for any player (either male or female) for the number of consecutive weeks as number 1 in the world - 186 weeks between 17th August 1987 and 10th March 1991.
· Steffi is the only player (either male or female) to have won all four Grand Slam singles titles in the 80s AS WELL AS in the 90s
· By winning the 1994 Australian Open, Steffi became only the second woman (Martina Navratilova was the other doing it in 1983/84) to win a non-calendar year Grand Slam, having already won the 1993 French Open, Wimbledon and US Open titles.
· Steffi holds the record for consecutive appearances in Grand Slam finals at 13 - from the 1987 French Open up to the 1990 French Open
· Steffi has won at least 3 Grand Slam titles in five different years - in 1988 she won all 4; in 1989 and 1993 she won 3 and was a finalist in the fourth; in 1995 and 1996 she won all three of the Grand Slams she played.
· Steffi has earned an Olympic Gold Medal (1988 at Seoul), a Silver Medal ( 1992 at Barcelona) and a Bronze Medal (1988 at Seoul in doubles).
· Steffi won the Lipton 5 times - a record for a man or woman. The Lipton is the biggest tournament outside the Grand Slams.
· Between 1986 and 1996, Steffi won at least 7 titles every year. Also she won at least one Grand Slam title every year between 1987 and 1996.
· Steffi has been the World Champion of Tennis seven times in ten years - 1987 to 1990, 1993 and 1995 and 1996. Seven times is a world record.
· Steffi has been the Corel WTA Player of the Year 1987 to 1990 and 1993 to 1996.
· Steffi holds a winning record against every significant player she has ever played, except Martina Navratilova (9-9) and Tracy Austin (1-1).
· Steffi holds the record as the player who has held the number 1 ranking in the world for the l o n g e s t period of time. As of the 24th March 1997, she had been in the top position for 377 weeks (over 7 years). The previous record was 331 weeks which was held by Martina Navratilova.
· Steffi won 107 titles
enough said...Merry Christmas...... I do think Monica & Martina N & H & Chrissie & M. Cort & King & Willis & Maureen are all the best players ever women but Steffi tops the list
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Martina - because not only was she fabulously awesome in singles, but doubles as well - representing a WHOLE player.

I love Steffi to death, but I think Martina edges her out as a more complete player.


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Quote:
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I choose Martina Navratilova and Helen Wills Moody as the Greatest Female Tennis Players of All-Time. I choose them for many reasons. I'll start with Navratilova.
  • competed against: Court, Graf, Goolagong, Seles, Evert, and the other greats
True LTL.

Here's the list of the other Greats that Navratilova had to play with:

Billie Jean King
Margaret Court
Evonne Goolagong
Virginia Wade
Tracy Austin
Hana Mandlikova
Andrea Jaeger
Wendy Turnbull
Steffi Graf
Claudia Kohde-Kilsch
Gabriela Sabatini
Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario
Monica Seles
Jennifer Capriati
Zina Garrison

These 15 players along with Evert and Navratilova themselves make up over half of the top 30 players in women's tennis during the Open Era.
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If not for envy and politics, there would be no debate...

STEFFI GRAF

The mere facts:

* record for most consecutive weeks at No. 1, 186 weeks

* record for most total weeks at No. 1, 377 weeks

* won 22 major titles, second only to Court with 24.

* won each major title at least four times, showing just how versatile and complete a tennis player she was.

* won 7 Wimbledon titles and almost as many French Titles (6), showing again how versatile she was. No other player comes close.

* won Wimbledon and the French Open back to back, 4 times.

* completed the calendar-year Grand Slam, the holy grail of tennis, in 1988, just one year after winning her first major title. Other pretenders to the title of Greatest Ever tried throughout their careers to achieve the same feat, but failed. Steffi is only one of three women to achieve this feat, the others being Court and Connolly.

* her competitive career spans almost five generations or eras--- that of Evert and Navratilova, her own, that of Seles, that of Davenport and Hingis, and the early part of the era that would belong to the W sisters. She was competitive until the very end, beating Hingis in the FO Final of 1999 and V. Williams in the QF of Wimbledon.

Steffi Graf was part of a youth tennis group that was studied from age 12 and then followed, and the scientists called her "the perfect talent" even then. In addition to her many tennis-specific skills, her aerobic capacity was on par with the best distance runners in Europe. --- David Epstein, The Sports Gene
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTL
I choose Martina Navratilova and Helen Wills Moody as the Greatest Female Tennis Players of All-Time. I choose them for many reasons. I'll start with Navratilova.
  • 167 singles titles won - 1st all-time
  • 1,438 singles matches won - 1st all-time
  • 109 match winning streak w/ Pam Shriver - 1st all-time
  • 162 doubles titles won - 1st all-time
  • 1000+ doubles matches won - 1st all-time
  • 390 doubles matches won w/ Pam Shriver - 1st all-time
  • Most total titles won
  • 18 Grand Slams in Singles
  • competed against: Court, Graf, Goolagong, Seles, Evert, and the other greats
of course, you are referring to those wonderful "open era" statistics which doctor with the real results. Results like Margaret Court's roughly 190+ career tournament wins. I wonder how many matches Court actually won?

There is nothing more beautiful than Evonne Goolagong in full flight moving across a tennis court.
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True LTL.

Here's the list of the other Greats that Navratilova had to play with:

Billie Jean King
Margaret Court
Evonne Goolagong
Virginia Wade
Tracy Austin
Hana Mandlikova
Andrea Jaeger
Wendy Turnbull
Steffi Graf
Claudia Kohde-Kilsch
Gabriela Sabatini
Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario
Monica Seles
Jennifer Capriati
Zina Garrison

These 15 players along with Evert and Navratilova themselves make up over half of the top 30 players in women's tennis during the Open Era.
UPDATE:

Navratilova even played Davenport ... Navratilova is 1-0 vs. Lindsay Davenport.

Mary Pierce? Navratilova played her and they are 1-1.

Amanda Coetzer? Navratilova is 4-0 vs. Coetzer.

Amy Frazier? Navratilova is 2-1 vs. Amy Frazier.

Iva Majoli? Navratilova is 1-0 vs. Majoli.

The Maleeva sisters? She played all 3 and is 22-6 there.

Lori McNeil? Navratilova is 12-0 vs. McNeil.

Jana Novotna? Navratilova is 6-0 vs. Jana Novotna.

Miriam Oremans? Navratilova is 2-1 vs. Oremans.

Chanda Rubin? Navratilova is 1-0 vs. Chanda Rubin.

Irina Spirlea? Navratilova is 1-0 vs. Irina Spirlea.

Nathalie Tauziat? Navratilova is 9-1 vs. Tauziat.

Maria Bueno? Navratilova is 1-0 vs. Bueno
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Yes, you are totally right. Everyone who does not agree with you and does not bow and kneel before Graf is just jealous and completely irrational in his/her behaviour and choices .... right ...

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It says "greatest women's tennis player of all-time".

Definately Navratilova.

If it said "Greatest Women's Singles Player of All-Time"...I would have chosen Graf.
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