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Why do people even compare Maria and Serena why not Myskina or Kuznetsova..

Why do people keep comparing the two they have absolutely nothing in common and I donít see Mariaís career coming even close to Serenaís or maybe not even Venus with the style of play Maria plays. Maria fans will be better of comparing Serena to Myskina or Kuznetsova, because they all have won only one slam and a handful of regular tournments, I donít dislike Maria but I think itís ridiculous to keep comparing the two.
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Why do people keep comparing the two they have absolutely nothing in common and I donít see Mariaís career coming even close to Serenaís or maybe not even Venus with the style of play Maria plays.
It's called 'Hope'.

But I have to admit I haven't read much comparing of Sharapova's game to Serena's. They really don't play the same way. The player I've read comparison's of Sharapova's game to is Davenport's, and it's a pretty fair comparison. Sharapova is a touch faster, Davenport has better footwork, and a better serve. But the fundamentals of their respective games are the same.

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And you think Maria plays the same as Myskina and Kuznetsova? If so, you're sadly mistaken...have you seen either play?
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And you think Maria plays the same as Myskina and Kuznetsova? If so, you're sadly mistaken...have you seen either play?

No Iím talking about achievements.
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No Iím talking about achievements.

But you mentioned in your post the difference in the style of play between the two.
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With endorsements like Maria has, she's going to be compared to players greater than her.

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Serena owns Nastya, Nastya owns Maria. Done

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Because they are both the Top Dogs on tour.


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Why do people keep comparing the two they have absolutely nothing in common and I donít see Mariaís career coming even close to Serenaís or maybe not even Venus with the style of play Maria plays. Maria fans will be better of comparing Serena to Myskina or Kuznetsova, because they all have won only one slam and a handful of regular tournments, I donít dislike Maria but I think itís ridiculous to keep comparing the two.
Omg what's with your obsession with this topic anyway? And why do you insist that Maria fans are comparing Maria to Serena when I think - and I think - most have not. Career-wise and achievements-wise, Serena is obviously far ahead. The results indicate that. No sane Maria fan can and would even contest that. The comparisons may come in other forms but certainly not in achievements. It is not even fair to compare the two in terms of tennis success as Serena is older and has spent more time on tour.

If you think Maria's career will never come close to Serena's, that's your call. In the meantime, I wish you would stop these posts complaining about comparisons between Serena and Maria's respective careers when they are close to non-existent.

Career comparisons do not just include slam wins and tournament wins. They include players' entire slam and tournament records - how far they've gotten and how consistent they've been. It also includes rankings - again how far players have gotten and how consistent they have been. And considering all these factors, just this year alone, Maria is undoubtedly a level above Myskina and Kuznetsova. And note that Maria is younger and has spent less time on the tour. Things may change in the future but as of this moment, you will just have to live with the fact that Maria - as her results indicate - is a step above all the Russians.

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Serena owns Nastya, Nastya owns Maria. Done

And Nastya owns Kuznetsova too

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[/QUOTE]Career comparisons do not just include slam wins and tournament wins. They include players' entire slam and tournament records - how far they've gotten and how consistent they've been. It also includes rankings - again how far players have gotten and how consistent they have been. And considering all these factors, just this year alone, Maria is undoubtedly a level above Myskina and Kuznetsova. And note that Maria is younger and has spent less time on the tour. Things may change in the future but as of this moment, you will just have to live with the fact that Maria - as her results indicate - is a step above all the Russians.[/QUOTE]

I agree for 2005 results. Although 2004 was much more competitive. It will be interesting in 2006 when Kuznetsova is not injured, and Myskina has her head in the right space. Myskina and Sharapova have very similar career title hauls, and are still the only Russians to reach the QF in all 4 GS. Anastasia has a 3-1 record over Sharapova, and is one of the players that causes her trouble. I would like to see them play in 2006.

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Well, they both certainly seem to regard each other as rivals, what with Maria picking up the big wins in 2004 and Serena getting some payback in 2005.

Serena vs. Venus is a big yawn.

Can't get JHH and Serena healthy at the same time.

Serena still owns most of the rest of the Russian contingent.

Kim just doesn't inspire the kind of emotion that Ree and Masha do.

Which pretty much leaves them as the best rivalry going in tennis. Maybe the return of Hingis will change that.

Finally, for all the bitching and moaning about Serena not being focused enough on tennis and all the injuries, she's still the one to beat if you want to stake a realistic claim on being the best. I'm looking forward to Serena/Masha matchups in '06 (hopefully with them so completely exhausting each other in the quarters and semis that Lena D. can take 'em).

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And Nastya owns Kuznetsova too
We all know who Nastya really owns.

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I hate to open this can of worms as I am a HUGE Nastya fan but...

Serena is a multi-slam champion
Maria will be one too
Anastasia is great but is probably a one-slam wonder
Sveta is definitetely a one-slam wonder.

Serena's is like no one elses except maybe Venus even though it's way different
Maria's game is like Lindsay because the both have strokes by Robert Landsdorp and they both play an aggresive game
Anastasia has strokes by Lansdorp but plays a defensive game
Sveta was trained on the dirt in spain.
Thats one of the dumbest thing's Ive ever heard.


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Sveta was trained on the dirt in spain.
Yes. What is your point?
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