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Hingis - the key ingredient the WTA has been missing...

You gotta give it to her - the girl knows how to announce a comeback.

She hasn't even stepped foot on a court yet in pro competition and already the tennis world is in a buzz at the prospect of her competing once again.

Love her or hate her, her immaculately technically perfect game, her open attitude, her direct nature enabling her to express how she really feels - the WTA needed this back.

It's sure reinvigorated my interest in the women's game!

I just hope she can compete once again and we have her for at least a few more years.
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oh this is so true, it's not even funny!

Martina Hingis 4ever!!!

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I agree.

I missed Hingi.

Remember when she was called Chucky? Is that still around, lol.

I hope she gets a Slam, and hopefully moves up to the top. However I think she'll definitely struggle at the beginning.

BTW, hope her serve is better.
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It makes one wonder why Capriati hasn't taken advantage of the media in the same way. (Of course, Jen hasn't had such a great relationship w/ the media in the past....) Hingis (and her people) have certainly marketed the situation wonderfully, no?

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You gotta give it to her - the girl knows how to announce a comeback.

She hasn't even stepped foot on a court yet in pro competition and already the tennis world is in a buzz at the prospect of her competing once again.

Love her or hate her, her immaculately technically perfect game, her open attitude, her direct nature enabling her to express how she really feels - the WTA needed this back.

It's sure reinvigorated my interest in the women's game!

I just hope she can compete once again and we have her for at least a few more years.
totally agreed.

don't talk bout matches, i've even been tuning in WTA forums A LOT since she announced her comeback, which I very seldom did since I was always hooked up to the ATP.

WTA has been quite boring lately...
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She will definatly spice things up and i think she will add another personality/star that the tour is lacking, at the moment Its only the Williams girls and Masha that are what you would call stars and Hingis adds another one to the list, Clijsters, Henin, Mary and Lindsay i would call lesser stars
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she gonna heat the tour up cause she on fire and is always gonna create interest
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I agree.

I missed Hingi.

Remember when she was called Chucky? Is that still around, lol.
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I don't really think she's the key ingredient the WTA has been missing.
The WTA has continued to do well with or without her playing.
If all the players in the top 20 were actually healthy all at the same time, there would really be no need to think about Hingis.
Problem is that is probably never going to happen so someone needs to substitute when Venus, Serena, Capriati, Mary, or Maria happen to be injured.

If Hingis would have made her announcement to come back during the WTA season, not many people would have turned their heads.
Kim is back. Justine is back. Patty is back. Mary is back. Kinda makes Hingis announcement pale in comparison to these other girls who have some pretty big fanbases.

For Hingis to be a key ingredient, she would have to be a top 15 player and be a factor at slam and other big tournis.
Many people enjoy watching Hingis' game. She's pretty amazing. Noone is going to come to early round matches to see Hingis play though.

I would like to mention Daniela Hantuchova who had a slump a couple of year ago. She's probably playing as good as she's ever played and yet still has not made her way into the top 15.
It took Mary Pierce 3 years of hard work and rededication to get back in the top 15. The results just came in the last 6 months.
On the other side of the spectrum, it took Kim 4 months to get back in the top 15 after being ranked as low as 134.
The question is where is Hingis likely to be in that spectrum?

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What is obvious is that Hingis' style of play is much missed. Women's tennis has largely slipped into a kind of mindless bashing of the ball. Just stand on the baseline and hit it as hard as you can, going for the winner as early in the point as you can. If it stays in, fine, if it goes out, fine, too.

Sloppy, error filled matches have become common place. So have poor performances in big matches. Aside from this year's Wimbledon final, there have been few thrillers.

And as for star power, there are Venus and Serena, who both seem more interested in their second jobs than in tennis, and Sharapova. Maria certainly is a super star now, but she obviously cannot carry the load for the entire sport. She's a cool beauty, but still just a kid in some ways.

Hingis brings personality back to the game. It is sorely needed, for women's tennis, plauged by all these injuries and pull outs from tournaments, was clearly in the doldrums. All of the attention has been drifting to the men, because they have Federer and Nadal.
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I don't really think she's the key ingredient the WTA has been missing.
The WTA has continued to do well with or without her playing.
If all the players in the top 20 were actually healthy all at the same time, there would really be no need to think about Hingis.
Problem is that is probably never going to happen so someone needs to substitute when Venus, Serena, Capriati, Mary, or Maria happen to be injured.

If Hingis would have made her announcement to come back during the WTA season, not many people would have turned their heads.
Kim is back. Justine is back. Patty is back. Mary is back. Kinda makes Hingis announcement pale in comparison to these other girls who have some pretty big fanbases.

For Hingis to be a key ingredient, she would have to be a top 15 player and be a factor at slam and other big tournis.
Many people enjoy watching Hingis' game. She's pretty amazing. Noone is going to come to early round matches to see Hingis play though.

I would like to mention Daniela Hantuchova who had a slump a couple of year ago. She's probably playing as good as she's ever played and yet still has not made her way into the top 15.
It took Mary Pierce 3 years of hard work and rededication to get back in the top 15. The results just came in the last 6 months.
On the other side of the spectrum, it took Kim 4 months to get back in the top 15 after being ranked as low as 134.
The question is where is Hingis likely to be in that spectrum?
i dont agree at all. if she would announce her comeback during the season, there would be just as much buzz if not more i bet.

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Hingis brings personality back to the game. It is sorely needed, for women's tennis, plauged by all these injuries and pull outs from tournaments, was clearly in the doldrums. All of the attention has been drifting to the men, because they have Federer and Nadal.
yup, i share your sentiments
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I don't really think she's the key ingredient the WTA has been missing.
The WTA has continued to do well with or without her playing.
If all the players in the top 20 were actually healthy all at the same time, there would really be no need to think about Hingis.
Problem is that is probably never going to happen so someone needs to substitute when Venus, Serena, Capriati, Mary, or Maria happen to be injured.

If Hingis would have made her announcement to come back during the WTA season, not many people would have turned their heads.
Kim is back. Justine is back. Patty is back. Mary is back. Kinda makes Hingis announcement pale in comparison to these other girls who have some pretty big fanbases.

For Hingis to be a key ingredient, she would have to be a top 15 player and be a factor at slam and other big tournis.
Many people enjoy watching Hingis' game. She's pretty amazing. Noone is going to come to early round matches to see Hingis play though.

I would like to mention Daniela Hantuchova who had a slump a couple of year ago. She's probably playing as good as she's ever played and yet still has not made her way into the top 15.
It took Mary Pierce 3 years of hard work and rededication to get back in the top 15. The results just came in the last 6 months.
On the other side of the spectrum, it took Kim 4 months to get back in the top 15 after being ranked as low as 134.
The question is where is Hingis likely to be in that spectrum?
Hey there.

Yeah i wasn't so much basing this on success - rather her style of play she brings to the tour. The WTA has really turned into big babes tennis and the biggest difference i see between players at the top at the moment is that some are more athletic than others - the principle is pretty much the same - power.

At least Hingis adds another element. She has great match ups with many of the current top - i just hope this can continue and tennis has not passed her by.
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And as for star power, there are Venus and Serena, who both seem more interested in their second jobs than in tennis,
If selling out arenas for charity is part of their second job, so be it

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and Sharapova. Maria certainly is a super star now, but she obviously cannot carry the load for the entire sport. She's a cool beauty, but still just a kid in some ways.
Maria is a "super star" only in the eyes of her over-eager agents.She isn't even carrying a small portion of the load and to call her a "cool beauty" and "still just a kid" simply reveals your infatuation. By the age of 18, ALL of Hingis's best achievements were BEHIND her. In tennis years, Maria is beyond mature.

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Hingis brings personality back to the game. It is sorely needed, for women's tennis, plauged by all these injuries and pull outs from tournaments, was clearly in the doldrums. All of the attention has been drifting to the men, because they have Federer and Nadal.

Anyone who thinks hingis can just sweep in and knock off the top players is dreaming.Forget about Serena , Venus, Lindsay, Amelie, Mary Pierce-- the whole bunch of other Russians who were just coming up last time she was around, and all the young up-and-comers are waiting for her. Some people are just way too transparently desperate to put Venus and Serena down.
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Anyone who does not recognize that Maria has become the super star of tennis is simply deluding themselves. But then, I think most people do recognize her stardom and the fact that some Williams fans get so upset every time her name is mentioned seems to be proof of that. Sorry, but you cannot make somebody unfamous, and you especially can't do it just because her fame is overshadowing the fame of the Williams sisters.

And I'm glad to hear that they are doing some charity work. After the infamous "Hurricane, what hurricane?" comment form Venus and Serena's grand jesture with her hundred bucks per ace pledge, they needed to do something.

But that charity work does not seem to be a career. Its all the time on the party circuit that looks like the real career.
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