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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old May 3rd, 2002, 03:12 PM Thread Starter
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Couple of comments about the Daniela vs Martina result.....

This match must have been a great one to watch......seemed like there was tension, tight point and great play.
Daniela has lost nothing with this lost in my opinion, she must have played well, and a couple of points would probably have made the difference.

Now, please don't take this as being bias, but I have a couple of questions/comments.

Firstly, apart from Martina's extra experience on clay, can anything else really be taken out of such a tight match??

and secondly, a lot of people are calling this result revenge, but I cant see revenge in it at all. Martina would have taken the Indian Wells final over this match a 100 times over......maybe a consilation prize would be a more appropriate description.

If Martina can beat Daniela in the French, or in one of the up coming finals at Rome or Berlin, then that will be called revenge, but until then, Daniela is still one up on Martina, and there head to head is still 1 all after all.

Great match though, and I am extremely upset a didn't get to see it.
Well done bot girls, and keep your chin up Daniela.......another big win is only around the corner.

All my support and luck is with you Daniela.

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Daniela pretty much dominated the match from what I saw either she made a winner or a unforced error!

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Daniela pretty much dominated the match from what I saw either she made a winner or a unforced error!
Thats kind of nice to know irma........Daniela still should know that when her game is on, she can beat Martina.

She controls her own destiny in the majority of her matches really.

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She's right Aura, it was on Daniela's racquet to win or lose! She was the aggressor! I think her in-experience did her in.

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Earlier, Hingis avenged her recent defeat by Daniela Hantuchova in the final of the Indian Wells tournament by beating the sixth seeded Slovak 7-5, 6-4.

Yet, it was Hantuchova who dictated much of the play, often beating Hingis with a well-struck forehand. She forced a number of errors with her deep groundstrokes, or by stretching Hingis wide, but she also overhit the ball often enough to keep the Swiss number three seed in contention.

Although Hingis snatched an early break to lead 2-1, Hantuchova levelled at 3-3 and then earned a set point at 5-4. But Hingis escaped when the Slovak netted a backhand, and then broke to lead 6-5 and served out to love for the set.

In the second set, Hingis took a 2-1 lead on her fifth break point, and although she failed to convert another six break points for a 4-1 lead and allowed Hantuchova to level at 4-4, the 2000 champion responded by forcing a backhand error to break again for 5-4, and then safely served out for victory.

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i'm glad to hear this about daniela.

too bad she lost.

i'm losing my favourite game...
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post #6 of 34 (permalink) Old May 3rd, 2002, 05:01 PM
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Of course it was all in Daniela's hands. We all know it's just a big coincident that just about everyone hits all those UE's against poor Martina, who's just standing there and hoping the opponent will miss. I don't believe that if you don't take those chances, you will get the ball back and get another chance to miss it. I don't believe you will get the ball back against something as weak as Martina, so the only chance she'll win is if you miss smashes all the time. So, I totally agree with you. Shame on Daniela for wasting this easy match.
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Well, if power players like Daniela and Serena are the ones always dictating the points in every match this does not really bode well for a player like Martina Hingis.

Martina had to be doing something right to win the match, but she is gonna have to find more ways to not let a player like Daniela always dictate points.

A lucky break for Martina......
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post #8 of 34 (permalink) Old May 3rd, 2002, 06:29 PM
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*SIGH* Daniela did dictate in this match. But it was Hingis' ability to make her play one extra shot in each rally that won the match for her. smygelfh, you call beating hingis an easy match? The only way she can win is if you miss smashes? Tell that to JCap, whom Martina had on the rops at AO 02. Tell that to Venus, and Serena, after every time they've lost to Martina. (yes, I know martina hasn't beaten either in a while. But I just think it's anything but an 'easy match' against her, most of the time anyway)
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poor martia--girl can not even win match anymore wifout peeps making excuses that girl shoulda lost.....weirds to me...very weird...lady not plays as good as before cuppa years ago--still can not gets 'cleans" wins wifout hassle on her--unfair
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ryan, smygelfh was being sarcastic (I think)!

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Thanks, Now thta I read his post again, maybe he sas being sarcastic. Use a next time to make it more clear!
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not a big hingis fan myself, but I find myself agreeing Ryan14. even if it was on Daniela's racquet to win this match, she did not execute her game plan and thus did not win. Give Martina credit when its due. MABYE daniela should have / could have won this match. But she didn't.
And now they are 1-1 in head to head matches.
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I didn't see the match, so I can't comment on it at all.

However, it seems that whenever Martina plays against someone who is taller that she is, we hear, "The match is in <insert name>'s hands..." This list could go on and on, but includes, Venus, Serena, Jen, Kim, Daniela, Monica, Alexandra, and probably even Justine!

If Martina really has no control over the outcome of her matches against the bigger players, then she must be really lucky, cause she wins a lot of them! Has anyone ever considered the possibility that Martina's play draws more errors from her opponents??? Just a thought!

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I dont care if Martina made 0 winners and Daniela made 100 UE.

Either way what it comes down to is the big points whoever plays them better derserves to win and does win.

Im a huge Marti fan..As well as she played at Aussie I credit Jen 100% she completly deserved to win she played the big points better than marti did.
I think Marti played much better than Jen for the most part of that match but she couldnt convert...

..After my little ramble....finally getting to the point...
Daniela didnt produce on the big points Martina did.

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