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Unhappy Lindsay's GS Losses Since Last Win (AO 2000) - Consistent But Many Winnables / Chokes

Lindsay's GS record since her win at the 2000 AO (beat Kournikova, Halard, Capriati and Hingis) has been admirable in that she has been consistent but it has been filled w/ so many bad performances and chokes . Discuss.

RG 00 1R Van Roost - 6-7(5) 6-4 6-3
W 00 F V Williams - 6-3 7-6(3)
US 00 F V Williams - 6-4 7-5
AO 01 SF Capriati - 6-3 6-4
W 01 SF V Williams - 6-2 6-7(1) 6-1
US 01 QF S Williams - 6-3 6-7(7) 7-5
US 02 SF S Williams - 6-3 7-5
AO 03 4R Henin - 7-5 5-7 9-7
RG 03 4R Martinez - 6-4 2-0 (ret.)
W 03 QF V Williams - 6-2 2-6 6-1
US 03 SF Clijsters - 6-2 6-3
AO 04 QF Henin - 7-5 6-3
RG 04 4R Dementieva - 6-1 6-3
W 04 SF Sharapova - 2-6 7-6(5) 6-1
US 04 SF Kuznetsova - 1-6 6-2 6-4
AO 05 F S Williams - 2-6 6-3 6-0
RG 05 QF Pierce - 6-3 6-2
W 05 F V Williams - 4-6 7-64 9-7
US 05 QF Dementieva - 6-1 3-6 7-6(6)
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Linds has 3 GS to her name. But she really should have like 6
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It seems wrong that Lindsay only has three slams.

US 01 QF S Williams - 6-3 6-7(7) 7-5
W 04 SF Sharapova - 2-6 7-6(5) 6-1
US 04 SF Kuznetsova - 1-6 6-2 6-4
W 05 F V Williams - 4-6 7-64 9-7

In my mind, these four losses are the biggest, especially the US Open 2004. That thing was hers.
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It seems wrong that Lindsay only has three slams.

US 01 QF S Williams - 6-3 6-7(7) 7-5
W 04 SF Sharapova - 2-6 7-6(5) 6-1
US 04 SF Kuznetsova - 1-6 6-2 6-4
W 05 F V Williams - 4-6 7-64 9-7

In my mind, these four losses are the biggest, especially the US Open 2004. That thing was hers.
Didn't Serena have matchpoint in the second set against Lindsay in 2001?
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and she usually lose to eventual winner!!!!
Its a shame! she really deserves more than 3. specially GS of 2005 and 2004.

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Lindsay won three grand slam tiltes yes Andrew the 2004 US open was her for taking until she got injured. yes she should have could have won more but three is more than most players have got. she has got to two finals this year and was so close at Wimbledon. I have a feeling number 4 will come next year. I am going to stick my neck out and say it will happen at the Oz open. don't ask me why it just a feeling I have.
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W 04 SF Sharapova - 2-6 7-6(5) 6-1
US 04 SF Kuznetsova - 1-6 6-2 6-4
AO 05 F S Williams - 2-6 6-3 6-0
RG 05 QF Pierce - 6-3 6-2
W 05 F V Williams - 4-6 7-64 9-7
US 05 QF Dementieva - 6-1 3-6 7-6(6)

I can't comment on previous matches than these because I never watched them. IMO, Davenport should've won all these matches except RG 05 against Pierce when she was beaten by a far superior claycourt player.

W 04 - Sharapova stepped up her game, but Davenport was then so slow - I didn't see the entire match, but it was winnable.
USO 04 - she got injured and that clearly was showing, if it wasn't for that, she would've won that slam. Bad luck.
AO 05 - Choke at its best. Serena is sure a fighter, but Davenport shouldn't have lost it, she was so frustrated and mentally blocked that Serena bagelling her in the final set didn't come up as huge surprise.
W 05 - She had matchpoint and was several times in position to take the match, neither she or Venus were at their best, and fought hard - and Venus came out on top. Davenport could've won, but I won't say she should, even though she had MP and had a comfortable lead before Venus started her comeback. But definitely it was winnable.
USO 05 - Color me surprised. Didn't see the match, but people said Elena fought like crazy and was hitting winners everywhere. IMO, Davenport could've won as well, didn't she have like two matchpoints? I woudn't say this slam was winnable because IMO, Mary or Kim would take her out if Elena didn't.



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Injuries whatever.
She didnt win those matches.
End of story.
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This topic depresses me...especially talking about US Open 2004
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Injuries whatever.
She didnt win those matches.
End of story.
Nobody said she did and that's the whole point of the thread by the way. Is discussing this a problem? I can't see it.



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Lindsay's GS record since her win at the 2000 AO (beat Kournikova, Halard, Capriati and Hingis) has been admirable in that she has been consistent but it has been filled w/ so many bad performances and chokes . Discuss.
I haven't seen ANY chokes. I NEVER seen Davenport suddenly lose the ability to play. Choking is pretty specific. Try Dementieva at the 2004 Roland Garros final.

The 2004 US Open semi, if her body hadn't broken, she had that thing.

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Linds has 3 GS to her name. But she really should have like 6
i agree but she just had bad luck in some of those matches. she didn't choke. she just got outplayed.
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For the last doggone time Lindsay did NOT CHOKE in her match againt Serena this year in Melbourne.

Two simple things happened: Serena body decided to play tennis and Lindsay's body decided it didn't want to.

That was it in a nutshell.

People really need to look up CHOKE in the dictionary and really study what that word really means.

That has got to be the most overrused, poor excuse of an argument anymore on this board.
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The US Open 2004 was really heartbreaking. WIthout injury she would have crushed Sveta and Elena D. Especialy after that hot summer streak of hers.
Aus 05 wasn't really that surprising. She was playing mediocre from the first round and when Serena lifted her game she didn't have an answer.
US 05 was really weird since she was playin relatively well and then she just folded against a player who she normally owns when she's on. She was just off that day. Not sure if she could have beaten Clijsters though.
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