So far, what do you remember the most about Serena's 2005 year ? - TennisForum.com

View Poll Results: So far, what do you remember the most about Serena's year ?
Her AO title ? 57 49.14%
Or her slump ? 59 50.86%
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post #1 of 68 (permalink) Old Sep 27th, 2005, 07:11 PM Thread Starter
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So far, what do you remember the most about Serena's 2005 year ?

I know you're gonna say : "Okay, another thread/poll about Serena", but there's something I truly don't understand about her and her fans. Most of them seem to be in total denial that she's been having an awful year (even if she won the AO).
I used to love her (my avatar shows Justine and Serena smiling), and truly hope she'll reach once again her level of 2002.

BUT, when someone tries to say that Serena had a bad year, most of her fans come and say "She won a GS, unlike Davenport or Sharapova".
But, Serena's year is really "shameful" : her tennis-career is really getting lower and lower, and it doesn't seem to get better. (In the same way, there's nothing really "shameful" in Davenport or Sharapova's year. They had some disappointments, but not as bad as Serena's.)
If I were Serena, I would be annoyed of showing such a bad level of tennis, and I would go on training and training to reach a decent level. Instead of that, it seems to her that she's still the best, and many of her fans seem to put up with her AO title, as if Serena winning a GS was such a big achievement (we all know what she can do, even when far from her best).
Sorry, but I just can't understand people saying Serena's been having an ok year.

So I'd like to know, if I'm the only one to think this way ?

The question is : So far, what do you remember the most about Serena's 2005 year ? Her AO title or her slump ?
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Why do you needs other opinions? To validate you own? If you feel Serena's year was shameful, then so be it. Thats fine, you have the right to your opinion. Justlike Serena's real fans have a right to think otherwise.


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I'm sorry but who is 'most of them'? You have some names or you just took this generalization and decided to run with it blindly? I have yet to interact with one poster on this board who has spoken to, discussed issues with 'most' of anybody.

Have you spoken to individuals who are Serena fans and feel much like some Venus fans in that Serena's Australian Open win stands for far much more in it's solitary capacity for what it spoke to the critics and what potential that there still remains in Serena? Or have you spoken to some individuals who realize that Serena has had only that Australian Open win but notice the injuries and fitness problems she's had and look towards next year? What is the deal in beating oneself over the head with what hasn't gone right this year when you know just the kind of player you are a fan of? Then there are the Serena fans who are vocal in their disappointment in Serena period so much so that I find myself upset because it isn't the way I would express myself over Serena and in particular her losses, but they do it and it's their right. Have you not read these threads and spoken to these Serena fans? Well? The spectrum in opinion from Serena fans is wide and mostly shown when they are speaking among Serena fans. Faith, confidence, pride and knowledge of the past and glimpses of the future all played a part this year with Serena Williams. From the Australian to a Wimbldeon with Craybas. I rejoiced so loud I almost lost my voice when she won the AO and I was disappointed with her loss to Craybas but I had perspective about it and moved the hell on. The fact that you only give two choices and none of which being Serena's whole season show your own narrow mode of thinking. Here you attack Serena fans for daring to think one way and you hardly open yours to any other but generalizations to all these Serena fans you haven't spoken with.

So for me personally, the non-most Serena fan I have no denial about her season, but a perspective about what went wrong with Serena and her tennis and that is that. What more do people like you actually want and why do you need to be satisfied?

Frankly I'm not understanding why you even care what goes on in the mind and heart of Serena fans, who still love her by the way regardless of what her season has been like. Let alone Serena, you aren't her, none of us are. We don't know what she's doing at every moment of the day and it shows your arrogance to even go there assuming she's not doing a thing to get better. If you were Serena... you aren't. You aren't even a Serena fan. Perhaps it is a WTAworld thing, to be all up in the business of other fans so much so that you make their business yours - crazy. Your lack of understanding or want of it will never dictate what others feel. It's really as simple as that.

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PS : This is a public poll. We'll see how her fans, her non-fans and her haters vote.
And I don't make this to bash Serena. But, I just don't understand some of Serena's fans. If Justine had such a year, I'd be disappointed.

And Serena is no low-ranked/"unknown" player. Of couse, Schnyder would have been so happy if she had Serena's year (don't ask me why I'm talking about Patty, I'm just gonna say I'm a fan of Justine ).
But Serena is no Schnyder. We can expect better things from her.
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Her AO title, of course. Her comeback, fighting off match-points, her all pumped-up; I'll never forget it. What the hell is memorable about a slump? When people reflect back on the career of a great player, who says, "Remember Laver's slump in '67?" Nobody. You remember '69 when he won all four slams.
The current slump is just a bump on a long and glorious road for Serena Williams.

(I know some jackass is going to say, "I remember her eating five Big Macs at her birthday party." Don't. Just don't!)
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at the moment i remember her slump. im a big serena fan but i can admit shes had an awful year-she wasnt even playing that well at the AO. you gotta give her respect-shes plays poorly-maybe the worst tennis of her career-and yet she still has a grand slam. i bet there are alot of people who would like to have the year shes having.

in my opinion shes having a bad year if she doesnt win at least 3 slams-henin may be able to beat her on clay but serena is better than everyone on the other 3 surfaces.
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Dear thread starter,

EVERY player goes through a slump sometime during his/her career-- Yes, the greats like Steffi, Pete, Evert, Navratilova all had their downs, but no one ever remembers . They only remember all the slams won and that's the only thing that matters at the end of the day . Even if Serena never wins another tournament in her career, history is already written and can't be taken back now.

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her slump, but i don't expect/don't hope it will last.

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Frankly I'm not understanding why you even care what goes on in the mind and heart of Serena fans, who still love her by the way regardless of what her season has been like. Let alone Serena, you aren't her, none of us are. We don't know what she's doing at every moment of the day and it shows your arrogance to even go there assuming she's not doing a thing to get better. If you were Serena... you aren't. You aren't even a Serena fan. Perhaps it is a WTAworld thing, to be all up in the business of other fans so much so that you make their business yours - crazy. Your lack of understanding or want of it will never dictate what others feel. It's really as simple as that.
Shoot I have to spread reputuation before I can give you more ..


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LOL! Another uninformed tennis "fan" who refuses to acknowledge that Serena is not a liar when she says that she fucking fractured her ankle.

Yeah, with a fractured ankle, I'd probably be in a slump from world class tennis too. Honestly, any convo where the fractured ankle issue isn't discussed is a waste of time.

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Isn't it amazing how much people on this board need Williams fans to validate their opinion?
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haha, really it's fascinating to me because I don't think I've ever said to myself...." I don't understand why _____ fans aren't disspointed in their fav or why doesn't ________ fans admit x y z. " It's just a foreign concept to me.
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Years from now, when all today's players have long-retired, when the historians review 2005, all the attention will rightly be on the four Slam tournaments. Regardless of her disappointing performances in three of them, Serena Williams DID win a Slam this year -her Australian Open triumph will always be in the history books. As such, she is automatically one of the year's best performers, despite her injury-induced lowly ranking.
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I don't think there are many people in the world that wouldn't love to have the season that Serena has had. Right now people may focus on the slump, but years from now they will just remember the Australian Open title.


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