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Venus, Davenport and Hingis......

.......have been tennis' most competitive triumvirate...(it could be argued) at least within the past 8-10 years.

Venus and Davenport have a career 27-match (the highest among active players) h2h competition with Linsday leading with a 14-13 majority.
Davenport's second longest h2h match record (24) is against Hingis where she enjoys a 14-10 advantage.

Venus' second longest career h2h is 19 against Hingis, where she is trailing (and likely to remain that way) 9-10. Her third longest is 14 against Serena where they are tied 7-7.

In the case of Hingis, her longest career h2h was 24 against Davenport where she is trailing 10-14, her second longest is 20 against 2 players (Arantha Sanchez, 18-2 and Monica Seles 15-5) and her third longest at 19 is against Venus whe she maintains a 10-9 edge.

Serena's most competitive h2h career is against Capriati where she enjoys a 10-7 edge. 12 of those 17 matches went to 3 sets.

So there you have it.

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Interesting!!! Even though Lindsay presently enjoys an edge in the H2H I know she would have preferred Venus' "huge" edge and that is 3-0 in Slam finals!!! Did Hinges and Venus ever meet on grass?
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I think Venus beat Hingis on the way to Wimbledon 2000.
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quarterfinal @ Wimbledon(=).

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quarterfinal @ Wimbledon(=).
Yeah, one of the many reason Miss deja entendu can't stand Miss Venus Williams
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Interesting!!! Even though Lindsay presently enjoys an edge in the H2H I know she would have preferred Venus' "huge" edge and that is 3-0 in Slam finals!!! Did Hinges and Venus ever meet on grass?
yes, Vee won 6-3 3-6 6-4 against Hingis in the Wimby 2000 quaters!

Anyway, i know by the time their careers are over Venus will be leading Davenport!!!
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yes, Vee won 6-3 3-6 6-4 against Hingis in the Wimby 2000 quaters!

Anyway, i know by the time their careers are over Venus will be leading Davenport!!!
6-3, 4-6, 6-4

Come on guys, facts straight!

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Yeah, one of the many reason Miss deja entendu can't stand Miss Venus Williams
Always on your mind I see But anyway, Hingis should be congratulated -- playing her worst tennis on her least favorite surface and nearly defeating fast-court specialist Venus Williams

Martina!

But anyway, 14-10 for Dav -- Hingis? I know one of those must include the 2-1 retirement victory, and I thought it was otherwise 13-11? Hm.
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Always on your mind I see But anyway, Hingis should be congratulated -- playing her worst tennis on her least favorite surface and nearly defeating fast-court specialist Venus Williams

Martina!

But anyway, 14-10 for Dav -- Hingis? I know one of those must include the 2-1 retirement victory, and I thought it was otherwise 13-11? Hm.

If that's the way you see it
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It does include that match, but Lindsay was in many ways Martina's toughest competitor, aside from Graf and most of Graf's victories over Hingis were before 1997.


But what is truly amazing is that Venus and Serena met only 14 times since they came on the tour, when, the mid-90s? Why, if they were so dominant, did they fail to wind up in tons of finals, the way Chris and Martina did.

Or even Martina and Lindsay. In 2000, maybe their most competitive year, Hingis and Davenport faced off in the finals of five tournaments, the Australian Open, Indian Wells, Miami, Zurich and Philadelphia. That is a rivalry!

Why so few Williams sisters face off over nearly 10 years of competition?

Did the Willies intentionally duck one another?
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Yes, Venus-Hingis-Davenport made a great three-way rivalry for couple of years. And you know what made that special, compared to most of todays 'rivalries'? They actually played GOOD MATCHES.

JenJen-Serena is pretty much only comparable combination of the recent years.
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Did the Willies intentionally duck one another?
Yes, they seldom played at same events, except really important ones. Besides, they were injured a lot and Serena in general played very sparse schedule.
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yes, Vee won 6-3 3-6 6-4 against Hingis in the Wimby 2000 quaters!

Anyway, i know by the time their careers are over Venus will be leading Davenport!!!
Don't be so sure of that. Remember Wimbledon 05. She only just won. Venus was beaten by Lindsay 4 times in a row before that. I wouldn't be so cocky if I was you.
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It does include that match, but Lindsay was in many ways Martina's toughest competitor, aside from Graf and most of Graf's victories over Hingis were before 1997.


But what is truly amazing is that Venus and Serena met only 14 times since they came on the tour, when, the mid-90s? Why, if they were so dominant, did they fail to wind up in tons of finals, the way Chris and Martina did.

Or even Martina and Lindsay. In 2000, maybe their most competitive year, Hingis and Davenport faced off in the finals of five tournaments, the Australian Open, Indian Wells, Miami, Zurich and Philadelphia. That is a rivalry!

Why so few Williams sisters face off over nearly 10 years of competition?

Did the Willies intentionally duck one another?
You can spin anything any way you want by massaging time periods, people peaking (or being injured) at different times, etc etc. Oh, Hingis was no way one of the "most competitive" players of the last ten years. Anyway, do you realize how silly you look finding fault and nitpicking the Wiiliames to death ?? You're also conveniently omitting the fact that Venus was out with wrist tendinitis the first few months of 2000.
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Don't be so sure of that. Remember Wimbledon 05. She only just won. Venus was beaten by Lindsay 4 times in a row before that. I wouldn't be so cocky if I was you.
and before those 4 times Lindsay was practically Vee's bitch, so what's your point??
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