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Justin Gimelstob's views on sharing facilities with women players

This seemed like a very sexist article, with no wit in it to redeem it. Why on earth do they want this fellow's opinions?


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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...afe/index.html

Justin Gimelstob has played on the ATP men's professional tennis tour for nine years, winning 12 doubles titles during that span. Over the course of his career, he has developed a reputation for being opinionated and outspoken. Luckily for SI.com, he'll be writing entries every few days from the U.S. Open, where he'll be competing.

I think "Nobody's safe" is an appropriate title for my first blog entry. As long as you enjoy my opinions and insights, I am going to give them to you. Some might be controversial, some might be humorous, but all will be honest and, hopefully, thought-provoking. With that said, my first target is ... the women on tour.

Both the ATP and WTA have made a conscious effort to create as many co-ed tournaments as possible outside of the Grand Slam events. I completely agree with the initiative and think it's great for the game and the spectators. However, there are some annoying things sharing a site with women entails.

As dysfunctional as the men's tour is, the women's tour blows it away. For example, it's impossible for there to be enough practice courts for men and women to share without some kind of bickering. This is probably because of the fact that women have a bizarre refusal to practice with their fellow competitors. It's insane -- they literally would prefer to hit four on a court with their coach than two on a court with another player. They live in Bizarro World.

However, one of the benefits of having the women around is the ever-increasing desire for each and every young sassy player trying to outdo -- or in this case, under-dress -- the next.

My prediction? Pretty soon the WTA practice courts, and maybe even the match courts, will resemble a women's volleyball court, with g-strings and bikinis being the only logical next step. Not that I'm complaining, or even think that wouldn't be a valuable marketing tool. But I'd like to recommend to players both female and male, and even coaches out on the practice courts: If you resemble a beached whale, keep your gear on!

Another dynamic I find interesting is the players' lounges at joint events. In these player-exclusive hangouts, you'll find two groups of women: On one side you have the WTA players, many of whom are very attractive and in great shape. Unfortunately for them, they have to share the space with the most beautiful one percent of female creatures on the planet: men's players' girlfriends and wives.

It's an unfair competition when you have the girlfriends showing up looking like they're ready to stroll down a runway. Meanwhile, you've got the female players hanging out in tennis gear, dripping sweat from their practices and matches. We all know women are competitive creatures, and even I have some sympathy for the players who have to deal with the "glamour girls" whenever they turn the corner.

On the other hand, I'd like to congratulate the boys. They are peaking. There is more talent in the players' lounge currently then there's ever been, and the boys are raising the bar every day. I'd be remiss if I didn't point out the obvious physical discrepancies between some of these guys and their significant others. I'm not quite sure what some of these girls see in some of them, but to each her own -- I'm non-judgmental.
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isnt he dating corina morariu?
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Justin has never been known to be a "nice guy" type has he?
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heh, it's funny. Go Justin!
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This seemed like a very sexist article, with no wit in it to redeem it. Why on earth do they want this fellow's opinions?


from CNN:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...afe/index.html

Justin Gimelstob has played on the ATP men's professional tennis tour for nine years, winning 12 doubles titles during that span. Over the course of his career, he has developed a reputation for being opinionated and outspoken. Luckily for SI.com, he'll be writing entries every few days from the U.S. Open, where he'll be competing.

I think "Nobody's safe" is an appropriate title for my first blog entry. As long as you enjoy my opinions and insights, I am going to give them to you. Some might be controversial, some might be humorous, but all will be honest and, hopefully, thought-provoking. With that said, my first target is ... the women on tour.

Both the ATP and WTA have made a conscious effort to create as many co-ed tournaments as possible outside of the Grand Slam events. I completely agree with the initiative and think it's great for the game and the spectators. However, there are some annoying things sharing a site with women entails.

As dysfunctional as the men's tour is, the women's tour blows it away. For example, it's impossible for there to be enough practice courts for men and women to share without some kind of bickering. This is probably because of the fact that women have a bizarre refusal to practice with their fellow competitors. It's insane -- they literally would prefer to hit four on a court with their coach than two on a court with another player. They live in Bizarro World.

However, one of the benefits of having the women around is the ever-increasing desire for each and every young sassy player trying to outdo -- or in this case, under-dress -- the next.

My prediction? Pretty soon the WTA practice courts, and maybe even the match courts, will resemble a women's volleyball court, with g-strings and bikinis being the only logical next step. Not that I'm complaining, or even think that wouldn't be a valuable marketing tool. But I'd like to recommend to players both female and male, and even coaches out on the practice courts: If you resemble a beached whale, keep your gear on!

Another dynamic I find interesting is the players' lounges at joint events. In these player-exclusive hangouts, you'll find two groups of women: On one side you have the WTA players, many of whom are very attractive and in great shape. Unfortunately for them, they have to share the space with the most beautiful one percent of female creatures on the planet: men's players' girlfriends and wives.

It's an unfair competition when you have the girlfriends showing up looking like they're ready to stroll down a runway. Meanwhile, you've got the female players hanging out in tennis gear, dripping sweat from their practices and matches. We all know women are competitive creatures, and even I have some sympathy for the players who have to deal with the "glamour girls" whenever they turn the corner.

On the other hand, I'd like to congratulate the boys. They are peaking. There is more talent in the players' lounge currently then there's ever been, and the boys are raising the bar every day. I'd be remiss if I didn't point out the obvious physical discrepancies between some of these guys and their significant others. I'm not quite sure what some of these girls see in some of them, but to each her own -- I'm non-judgmental.
I don't think there's anything he said that wasn't right on the money. Women generally do hit with their coaches four to a court at the US Open and every tournament I've been to instead of with another player. The players do have competition from the bimbo waiting around in the players lounge who in some cases are often paid to socialize with the players.

Read a book that came out in about 1992 or 1993 called Ladies Of The Court. Everything that Justin Gimelstob is saying is right in there and it still held true 15 years ago. Not to mention that he gives it to himself too. The "beached whale" comment...Justin doesn't practice shirtless. He knows he doesn't have the body to. And I do agree with him. Would you want to see Magui Serna practicing in a sports bra or Todd Martin practicing with his shirt off?

And yes, he is in a very serious relationship with Corina.
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He seems like a douche to me.
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Everything he said is what makes me love the women's tour so much more than the men's tour!

I think the slogan of the WTA Tour should quote Jay from project runway and it should just be: "Things are gonna get pretty bitchy!"
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Justin has never been known to be a "nice guy" type has he?
He's just jealous because nobody notices him on either side of the players lounge

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haha, that's interesting....kind of annoying but has some good points

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The presumption that serious athletes are in the locker room "competing" with attractive girlfriends and wives is a sexist projection of ludicrous proportions. He calls some of the other women "bimbos" but then implies that they all are.
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I wouldn't be surprised by how many plastic bimbos await the male players in the lounge.

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He seems like a douche to me.
douche as in "douche-bag" ??? Can you please explain what this means??? My American friends used to say it all the time

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Both Justin Gimelstob and Vince Spadea try so hard to come off cocky and zany that it's just too much (did you all see Vince and his antics on the Tennis Channel?). Guys, just settle down and try to be calm and nice. It's not that hard.
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