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There needs to be a limit in how many tourneys can be played a year for each player

That's the final solution to cut down the amount of injuries. I would make the cut-off at around 25..Anyone else agree??
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I don't agree. If a player is losing early most weeks, and most players do not reach the quarters, they should be allowed to enter all they want.

The problem is that the top players should be allowed to re-do their schedule, so they can take more weeks off.
Instead, the WTA tries to force the top players to not withdraw.

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because Serena, Kirilenko, Kuznetsova, chakvatadze , Pierce, likhovtseva, na li, venus, davenport (all of whom withdrew or retired this week) have less than that anyway.
huntuchova retired due to heat ilness, not injury - and she has 26 tournies.

no - it's a bad idea. garrigues can take it. groenfeld too. jankovic is still ok. petrova as well. randrianteffy and craybas live from it. same for castano and brandi.
evry player builds her own scheduale - i think they know what they are doing better than a worried ristriction.

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if the EU was in control of the WTA then its likely that they would be forced to do so

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That's the final solution to cut down the amount of injuries. I would make the cut-off at around 25..Anyone else agree??

who the hell are you, the governor? It's a frigging joke to try and tell grown professionals how much they are allowed to work.
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who the hell are you, the governor? It's a frigging joke to try and tell grown professionals how much they are allowed to work.
I'm not trying to be communist. It was just a thought geez
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who the hell are you, the governor? It's a frigging joke to try and tell grown professionals how much they are allowed to work.
Haha Nice .... Thats true ... They dont need a limit thats why when they get really tired they just drop out of a Tournament ...they dont need a limit they arent little babies ... i also think when your under 18 the WTA should still let them play a full schedule its not like they go to school or nothing thats why they get schooled on the Computer or by a coach or traveling teacher ..

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who the hell are you, the governor? It's a frigging joke to try and tell grown professionals how much they are allowed to work.
You might have a point here, IF.... they didn't use the "Best 17" system, where everything else doesn't count. Like if someone we're both quite familiar with plays 25 plus events this year (maybe based on a Criminal Command) she'll have under 70% of them create her year end ranking. But somebody with a more reasonable 20 will have 85% of her events "count".
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You might have a point here, IF.... they didn't use the "Best 17" system, where everything else doesn't count. Like if someone we're both quite familiar with plays 25 plus events this year (maybe based on a Criminal Command) she'll have under 70% of them create her year end ranking. But somebody with a more reasonable 20 will have 85% of her events "count".

you forget that tournies outside the "best 17" DO count, and count a lot, for the lower-ranked players, who have a lot of first round losses AND get much-needed paychecks from every tournie they play.

I like the current system because it pays off for players who schedule smart and don't overextend themselves. Patty's rise back up the rankings has a lot to do with her scheduling better than almost anybody else on the tour.
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I don't agree. IMO over 25 tournaments is way too much playing, but everyone has their own preference.

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I mean it's scary that this whole situation is happening right now. I mean this US Open will be dissapointing if quite a number of players withdraw. A resolution needs to be made!
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you forget that tournies outside the "best 17" DO count, and count a lot, for the lower-ranked players, who have a lot of first round losses AND get much-needed paychecks from every tournie they play.

I like the current system because it pays off for players who schedule smart and don't overextend themselves. Patty's rise back up the rankings has a lot to do with her scheduling better than almost anybody else on the tour.
OK, so if you make lets say "all but 3" count (those to not penalize someone returning from an injury for getting knocked out early) it still lets the "journeywoman" types play as many events as they want. But it doesn't distort things in terms of rankings. If the Strange Suissie plays 26 draws this year, she'll have 9 "mulligans", triple the number as someone who plays 20. Is that fair?
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If the Strange Suissie plays 26 draws this year, she'll have 9 "mulligans", triple the number as someone who plays 20. Is that fair?

sure, it's fair, it's the same for everybody. It's a system that rewards players who stay healthy and schedule timely rest periods while still playing a lot of tournaments. That's part of being a professional. It's a level playing field.
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I like the current system because it pays off for players who schedule smart and don't overextend themselves. Patty's rise back up the rankings has a lot to do with her scheduling better than almost anybody else on the tour.
LOL. So tennis is a test of administrative skills now. I think most people would like it if the rankings reflected the ability to play tennis, not keep a schedule.

I don't have any great wisdom on how the ranking system could be used to not encourage overplaying, because it certainly does. The problem is trying to balance the interests of the top 36 players, and keep them healthy, with players who may not even survive qualifying for many event during the year. Its almost irreconcilable.

One thing for sure, the season should end no later than October 15th, or maybe October 1st. That's enough.
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LOL. So tennis is a test of administrative skills now. I think most people would like it if the rankings reflected the ability to play tennis, not keep a schedule.
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and for the most part, that's what the rankings do reflect, and part of that is being smart enough to know where to play. "Administrative skills" has no relevance to the topic whatsoever.
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