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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old Jul 14th, 2005, 05:44 AM Thread Starter
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Was the Russian Domination a Fluke?

Now that we are well past the 1/2 point of the tennis season, the results seem to make sense in the slams. The three winners and the two finalists have all been former champions and each of the three winners and one of the finalists have been #1. I think this is a much more consistent result. Much more consistent than last year. I think that last year because of injuries and complacence on the part of the sisters williams, we saw the three first time slam winners, none of which have been able to win six straight slam matches in order to reach another slam final. Sharapova has been the best of the bunch however. She reached the semis of the Oz Open and was | | close to beating Serena. She also reached the semis of Wimbledon. I think that Sharapova will continue to be a top player, but is the Russian domiation over? or was it even a domination at all?

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I think through many threads we have established that most people don't believe the Russians ever dominated per se. They played well, got a little luck, and things fell together. That probably won't happen again. I agree with you that Sharapova is the consistent one and most likely to succeed in the future. Kuznetsova is not consistent, but she seems to have enough talent to strike again, and theres always Dementieva/Myskina ready to randomly pounce. In the near future Justine, Kim, Venus, Serena, Maria, and Lindsay will rule at the slams

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Originally Posted by pav

Can't believe yet another one of these threads popped up.....this is what? three since Wimbledon completed?
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post #5 of 44 (permalink) Old Jul 14th, 2005, 09:31 AM
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well, for a second i thought you might take in consideration other scores this year, analyize them, add in other rising players and discuss the term in a way that can allow a new view.

so it doesn't really matter, i think reference to other threads would be best.

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its amazing how the Russinas seem to piss so many off!!

Well its true that the Russians havent burned a trail so far ,but in terms of dominating with their presence ,they ar every much still here! US tennis is dead in the water at the mo it seems with Dav retiring and Cappy cant be far behind ,the WS are very much alive and kicking and will always be serious contenders for a few years yet ,although I expect retirement sooner rather than later.

The Russians have many many players ,not just the current top ones , but many new up and comming players ,so they aint going anywhere ,and they will be a controlling force for some time ,the Belgians are obviously going to be up top ,but where are the others? there aint any ! no new Americans ,no new Beglians ,just Russians.

I dont know what the Russians are doing right ,but we could use it here in the uk thats for sure ,and while the Russians are not always technically perfect ,they sure have sould and fight like hell and for that i admire them a lot ,they are colorful and long may they continue!

Lets face it they had a sucessful space program with a budget of $19.99 and kept the Mir aloft with duct tape and glue for many years! whilst the more advanced nations with mega budgets just failed miserably ,ya gotta love em!!

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post #10 of 44 (permalink) Old Jul 14th, 2005, 01:20 PM
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I will say this for the nth time, the russians did what lindsay, amelie and jen couldn't do with the belgians and williams out of the picture. they were the second tier players after the four and when opportunity presented itself, only the Russians took advantage of it. That is truly commendable.
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Definately no Russian domination. But 3 in the top 5. 5 in the top 10.
13 in the top 35 - 8 of them 20 or younger.
3 of the last 6 majors, plus the YEC and Fed Cup.
Add to that - Maria is 18, Sveta just turned 20.

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There's been a brief period of rentrenchment, as the old guard fight back, but i think the Russian presence is so strong and deep, it will soon return to dominate.


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post #13 of 44 (permalink) Old Jul 14th, 2005, 02:46 PM
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It wasnt a domination, as been discussed many times. The Russians who won Slams were not the favourites, it was a surprise and viewed as a bit flukey that they won, and a lot of the top players were injured or out of form. It isnt a domination when winning a Slam is a surprise, and positive head to heads against top players arent there.
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post #14 of 44 (permalink) Old Jul 14th, 2005, 02:48 PM
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Domination of the rankings will resume, solely as a result of their quantity and not specifically their quality.

However, domination of the Slams and big titles have ceased. There is no Russian thats going to be able to get by 2 of the elites in succession. (Clijsters, Serena, Venus (if her Wimbledon form holds even 75%), and Henin-Hardenne) Davenport has a better chance at winning a slam than one of these Russians.

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The thing is that most commentators call it a Russian revolution because there are SO many of them on the tour at the moment. There is only one "Russian" player that is really an elite player at the moment, the being Sharapova. Otherwise we know who the other best players really are: Lindsay, Amelie, Justine, Kim, Venus, and Serena.

As far as winning those 3 slams in a row, one must wonder if it was a fluke or not. I believe that each girl who won took advantage of their situations and won that tournament as if it was another tour event. They each beat top players when they were clearly not playing their bests except Maria who played like a veteren throughout that whole two week span. Sveta and Myskina got lucky that Venus and Jen didn't show up to play in France and that Lindsay got injured against Sveta.
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