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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old Jul 11th, 2005, 03:03 PM Thread Starter
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Which players help improve your game?

I was watching the Vera douchevina VS Roberta Vinci match the week before wimbledon, and I've been thinking alot about that match, both girls really helped me notice flaws in MY game that i've actually remarkably improved just from watching them.
these flaws include my approuch shots which I'd just put some spin, hit deep and start running forwards. She might have played on grass, but i like going up to the net on hard courts as well, and I learned what balls i should try and "approach-hit" in the first place (i'd just "decide" to go up the net till then, almost forcing it sometimes) and I also small-step up much faster using her leg-crossing-leg style of shot that builds up her sprint - it gives me the chance to use the shot for another half-step or so, and incourages me to push my body forwards, starting the running motion earlier.
Douchevina on the other hand "tought" me how much more i can improve my passing shots, and use them not only as passes, but as a real anguler weapon that i didn't even think of doing before. i tried adding my left hand on my one handed backhand to add that extra spin and angle touch - and it worked so beautifully that i now do it occasionaly on my one handed forehand as well, and it raelly added a notch to my game. suddenly under pressure i can go for something more than down-the-line. it's so much more than cross-court!
the approuching and the passing together really brought my game up a level - i always play with a friend of mine and we usually end up winning/losing by a small margin - after trying out what i saw, i really crushed him 6-1 6-2, bringing out some really great excuses.
It also made me thinking - the best players, although magnificent are too far from my reach. i can't try and immatate Lindsay's forehand or Henin's backhand. the Molik serve or Momo approuching shots to the net were in a way too good for me to even read (and let's not even start talking about patty's dropshot. it's no less than God-like in it's suprisingness).
In a way, it's the "lesser" players, with real strengths and weaknesses that i can learn from, and that match gave me more than any GS final or dueling YEC match i've ever seen (to my game. dementieva-capriati was pure gold, henin was amazing over pierce and venus/lindsay is still awing.)
I thought of linetskaya that helped me improve my second serve, because she has none - like i'd usually have. it's just a weaker first serve, and I finally got the slice-serve going on my next game, as though by psychological effect.
Wanted to know if anyone here has a simuler story, or if there is a player that he/she remembers that helped him improve a shot.

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old Jul 11th, 2005, 03:15 PM
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Roddick helped my game...i was watching his serve and it has made me better.
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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old Jul 11th, 2005, 03:40 PM
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I completely reconstructed my serve based on watching Serena Williams. I rely on a deep knee bent and the accuracy of my step now, as opposed to my arm. My first serve is now much more consistent, my second serve is way faster.

I used Venus Williams as a model for how the lower half of my body should move on my two handed backhand. Both knees pointing to the side, start the movement with the hips, turn the legs the full 180 dgrees, letting the racket trail a little, like a whip. It has resulted in a more powerful, more consistent two hander.

In terms of learning from lesser players, 2000 US Open first round, Emmanuelle Gagliardi vs Jennifer Capraiti. Gagliardi gave Capriati fits before losiing the first set 4-6. The key stat. Gagliardi got 90% of her first serves in. She dodesn't have much of a first serve either, but against a player as conservative as Capriati, not giving her any 2nd serves means you get to play every point. You just don't EVER give them a chance to swing at a 'gimme' 2nd serve.

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Capriati has helped with my groundies... she has text book perfect ground strokes, and watching and trying to imitate hers have improved mine a ton--- especially on the forehand side. Also watching her revamp her service motion the last 2 years has helped me revamp my serve as well, making it more consistent and powerfull...

Agassi--- just from the way he controls the center of the court
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Justine's slice backhand really helped me to develop one. I just looked at pictures of her doing it

And watching Kim play aggressively helped me to do the same. I learned how to really drive the ball and give it a good whack when I had the chance.


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Steffi Graf´s backhand slice...showing me that slices actually are effective when you use them right

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post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old Jul 11th, 2005, 04:33 PM
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me it's martina hingis, i'm a very powerful player always agressive. To look hingis that help me to become smarter
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I copied Monica Seles's two-handed groundstrokes, always hitting with my left hand at the bottom of the handle even though I'm right-handed!

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Agassi, Federer, and Venus' backhand have all helped me.
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Originally Posted by Shonami Slam
i tried adding my left hand on my one handed backhand to add that extra spin and angle touch - and it worked so beautifully that i now do it occasionaly on my one handed forehand as well, and it raelly added a notch to my game. suddenly under pressure i can go for something more than down-the-line. it's so much more than cross-court!
Does that mean now you are hitting with a two-handed forehand And is this only for passing shots or are you opening up the court when the other player is at the baseline too?
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myskina groundstroke and her skill to retrieve.
Lena D. forehand
Navy serves & volleys

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