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Are You A Tennis Snob?

I think the definition of a tennis snob is a person who knows or thinks they know everything about tennis. They know all of the players, their stats, and their weaknesses and strengths. They know all shots associated with tennis and the mechanics thereof. They know all of the rules of the WTA and ITF and can quote them. They are also people who come on a tennis board and insult other tennis fans for not being as knowledgeable, or should I say are less diplomatic than need be. I think instead of trying to belittle a fellow tennis fan for their lack of all consuming tennis knowledge, a better way would be to either ask questions to inquire as to why a poster made a certain statement or say that you don't agree and give the reason why. That way, people can learn and ask questions without feeling inhibited, frustrated or defensive. I don't think statements beginning with "WRONG" or the like fosters good discussion. The only thing it fosters is arguments, which soon turn personal.

I don't know all those things above and never professed to. I am a fan of tennis, like I am a fan of football, basketball and baseball. I have favorite teams with those other sports and don't really care to watch any other team play but them, unless they are in the play-offs. I don't know the stats of all the players, etc., but I know a good team, player or game when I see it. I have enough knowledge about the sport to discuss it and most fans of those sports are eager to have a discussion without having to feel superior.

Some tennis fans such as myself either don't know all of the above because they don't have the time or don't know because they are simply not interested. That doesn't mean we are not fans and don't have the right to enter a thread to discuss it without being insulted.

Some have accused a lot of Williams fans of being just fans of the Williams' sisters and not fans of tennis. That the only reason most of us started watching tennis was because of the Williams' Sisters, and that may be true for some, but not all of us. In my opinion, that is a pigeon-holing and an unworthy accusation of an entire fan base. There's nothing wrong with the fact that some people became fans because of the Williams' Sisters. That's why they are good for the WTA because they generated a whole lot of fans to the sport. That means more revenue for the WTA and better quality tournaments. Inasmuch as that may be true for some, it is not true for all fans of the Sisters.

Some fans such as myself, have been following tennis a long time. I've stated many times that some of my old favs in the '70s were BJK, Arthur Ashe, Yvonne Goolagong, Martina Nav, Stan Smith and Ilie Nastase. A lot of you don't remember those players because they were way before your time, but they were my favs and I watched them play as much as the networks allowed back then. I even remember when Jimmy Connors and Chris Evert were a couple, and when she used to where his name on a chain around her neck when she played. I remember when and why they started calling diamond bracelets, tennis bracelets. I saw the Wimbledon finals between Jimmy Connors and Arthur Ashe live. None of this makes me an expert on tennis, but it does give me the right to call myself a real fan. Personally I lost interest in the sport when BJK and Arthur Ashe retired. My interested was renewed when I first saw Venus Williams play in 1997. My interest has steadily risen every year since then. So much so that I picked up the sport about a year ago. I am fortunate enough to have been able to join a tennis club and take lessons. My team in the 2.5 USTA ladies league won our City Championship. Now, I'm not saying that they are tennis snobs, but for example, I'll probably never know as much about tennis as LDV, Volcana and others because I really don't care to invest that much time. But, that doesn't mean that I don't learn when there's a civil discussion.

In conclusion, I just think with the wealth of knowledge on this tennis board, it could be a more positive learning environment and a little more inclusive.

Are you a tennis snob?

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I don't find Volcana to be a snob, but LDV sure comes off that way. Great post.
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No. For me, if you hit a decent shot (forehand, backhand, lob or volley) and you don't looks stupid it's okay... I don't really know the difference between slice, power and all this

But I know some results of player, i know more statistics then RDS Tv presentator who one time siad then Sesil was from Hungary
And they don't know about rivalty between Maria vs Sesil
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no. not at all. i learn something new about the game almost everytime i come here so i can´t be one

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LDV??? whose that?

Eggy probably knows the most
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nice post. we can definitely create an inclusive environment without necessarily agreeing with each other. i have been following tennis too for quite a while. my first match was the becker-curren 85 wimbledon final.

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I think the definition of a tennis snob is a person who knows or thinks they know everything about tennis. They know all of the players, their stats, and their weaknesses and strengths. They know all shots associated with tennis and the mechanics thereof. They know all of the rules of the WTA and ITF and can quote them. They are also people who come on a tennis board and insult other tennis fans for not being as knowledgeable, or should I say are less diplomatic than need be. I think instead of trying to belittle a fellow tennis fan for their lack of all consuming tennis knowledge, a better way would be to either ask questions to inquire as to why a poster made a certain statement or say that you don't agree and give the reason why. That way, people can learn and ask questions without feeling inhibited, frustrated or defensive. I don't think statements beginning with "WRONG" or the like fosters good discussion. The only thing it fosters is arguments, which soon turn personal.

I don't know all those things above and never professed to. I am a fan of tennis, like I am a fan of football, basketball and baseball. I have favorite teams with those other sports and don't really care to watch any other team play but them, unless they are in the play-offs. I don't know the stats of all the players, etc., but I know a good team, player or game when I see it. I have enough knowledge about the sport to discuss it and most fans of those sports are eager to have a discussion without having to feel superior.

Some tennis fans such as myself either don't know all of the above because they don't have the time or don't know because they are simply not interested. That doesn't mean we are not fans and don't have the right to enter a thread to discuss it without being insulted.

Some have accused a lot of Williams fans of being just fans of the Williams' sisters and not fans of tennis. That the only reason most of us started watching tennis was because of the Williams' Sisters, and they may be true for some, but not all of us. In my opinion, that is a pigeon-holing and an unworthy accusation of an entire fan base. There's nothing wrong with the fact that some people became fans because of the Williams' Sisters. That's why they are good for the WTA because they generated a whole lot of fans to the sport. That means more revenue for the WTA and better quality tournaments. Inasmuch as that may be true for some, it is not true for all fans of the Sisters.

Some fans such as myself, have been following tennis a long time. I've stated many times that some of my old favs in the '70s were BJK, Arthur Ashe, Yvonne Goolagong, Martina Nav, Stan Smith and Ilie Nastase. A lot of you don't remember those players because they were way before your time, but they were my favs and I watched them play as much as the networks allowed back then. I even remember when Jimmy Connors and Chris Evert were a couple, and when she used to where his name on a chain around her neck when she played. I remember when and why they started calling diamond bracelets, tennis bracelets. I saw the Wimbledon finals between Jimmy Connors and Arthur Ashe live. None of this makes me an expert on tennis, but it does give me the right to call myself a real fan. Personally I lost interest in the sport when BJK and Arthur Ashe retired. My interested was renewed when I first saw Venus Williams play in 1997. My interest has steadily risen every year since then. So much so that I picked up the sport about a year ago. I am fortunate enough to have been able to join a tennis club and take lessons. My team in the 2.5 USTA ladies league won our City Championship. Now, I'll probably never know as much about tennis as LDV, Volcana and others because I really don't care to invest that much time. But, that doesn't mean that I don't learn when there's a civil discussion.

In conclusion, I just think with the wealth of knowledge on this tennis board, it could be a more positive learning environment and a little more inclusive.

Are you a tennis snob?
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Tennis snob!? That's a great term! I'm not - and totally agree that this here site should be used to educate rather than belittle posters. I say 'boo, hiss' to all the tennis snobs out there. Anyway, I'd say if anything, every poster here is an elitist tennis fan re. 'snob' as we have made the effort to search, join up and post on this site. So ultimately, then, all of us are tennis snobs, and so we all suck, or something like that.
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I don't find Volcana to be a snob, but LDV sure comes off that way. Great post.
I didn't mean to insinuate that either of them were snobs. Just that they had a lot of tennis knowledge and their names were the only two I could think of off the top of my head.
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Denise your post is too long to be read but no,I`m not a tennis snob n

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To me, the surest sign of a tennis snob or a "wannabe tennis snob" is when someone says "you're not a real tennis fan" because you might only follow one player. That really irks me when I see it. Not everybody has all the time in the world to watch or follow every tournament. And who are we to determine who is a "real" tennis fan, and who is not?

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I think the definition of a tennis snob is a person who knows or thinks they know everything about tennis. They know all of the players, their stats, and their weaknesses and strengths. They know all shots associated with tennis and the mechanics thereof. They know all of the rules of the WTA and ITF and can quote them. They are also people who come on a tennis board and insult other tennis fans for not being as knowledgeable, or should I say are less diplomatic than need be. I think instead of trying to belittle a fellow tennis fan for their lack of all consuming tennis knowledge, a better way would be to either ask questions to inquire as to why a poster made a certain statement or say that you don't agree and give the reason why. That way, people can learn and ask questions without feeling inhibited, frustrated or defensive. I don't think statements beginning with "WRONG" or the like fosters good discussion. The only thing it fosters is arguments, which soon turn personal.

I don't know all those things above and never professed to. I am a fan of tennis, like I am a fan of football, basketball and baseball. I have favorite teams with those other sports and don't really care to watch any other team play but them, unless they are in the play-offs. I don't know the stats of all the players, etc., but I know a good team, player or game when I see it. I have enough knowledge about the sport to discuss it and most fans of those sports are eager to have a discussion without having to feel superior.

Some tennis fans such as myself either don't know all of the above because they don't have the time or don't know because they are simply not interested. That doesn't mean we are not fans and don't have the right to enter a thread to discuss it without being insulted.

Some have accused a lot of Williams fans of being just fans of the Williams' sisters and not fans of tennis. That the only reason most of us started watching tennis was because of the Williams' Sisters, and they may be true for some, but not all of us. In my opinion, that is a pigeon-holing and an unworthy accusation of an entire fan base. There's nothing wrong with the fact that some people became fans because of the Williams' Sisters. That's why they are good for the WTA because they generated a whole lot of fans to the sport. That means more revenue for the WTA and better quality tournaments. Inasmuch as that may be true for some, it is not true for all fans of the Sisters.

Some fans such as myself, have been following tennis a long time. I've stated many times that some of my old favs in the '70s were BJK, Arthur Ashe, Yvonne Goolagong, Martina Nav, Stan Smith and Ilie Nastase. A lot of you don't remember those players because they were way before your time, but they were my favs and I watched them play as much as the networks allowed back then. I even remember when Jimmy Connors and Chris Evert were a couple, and when she used to where his name on a chain around her neck when she played. I remember when and why they started calling diamond bracelets, tennis bracelets. I saw the Wimbledon finals between Jimmy Connors and Arthur Ashe live. None of this makes me an expert on tennis, but it does give me the right to call myself a real fan. Personally I lost interest in the sport when BJK and Arthur Ashe retired. My interested was renewed when I first saw Venus Williams play in 1997. My interest has steadily risen every year since then. So much so that I picked up the sport about a year ago. I am fortunate enough to have been able to join a tennis club and take lessons. My team in the 2.5 USTA ladies league won our City Championship. Now, I'm not saying that they are tennis snobs, but for example, I'll probably never know as much about tennis as LDV, Volcana and others because I really don't care to invest that much time. But, that doesn't mean that I don't learn when there's a civil discussion.

In conclusion, I just think with the wealth of knowledge on this tennis board, it could be a more positive learning environment and a little more inclusive.

Are you a tennis snob?

No.
I don't know the stats of ALL players.
Not even of SOME players.
Actually only of ONE player.

Two advices:
1) Don't take posts on internet forums too serious.
2) Forget the sisters. They suck.



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LDV??? whose that?

Eggy probably knows the most
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I'm hoping this thread will just be bumped down in the next couple of days but in the chance that it doesn't:
Congratulation on your 2.5 City Championship. Great.
The thread post is great as well.
Although I may be considered a tennis snob, one thing I will do is put my money where my mouth is. This is the reason I played fantasy tennis on the wtatour site. I didn't win but I did better than 1300 other entries which is good for me.

So all I'm asking you to do is put your money where your mouth is. Play the game (or if you played season 1, play season 2. Depend on your fanbase and your views on tennis and see how you do.
It's 10 bucks. It takes 10 minutes of your time each week.
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I think everyone who posts here and visits this site on a regular basis is somewhat addicted to tennis.

A "Tennis snob"? I know that my "real-life" friends think that of me but here no...I doubt it

But I certainly don´t like those tennis club "oh we are sooo rich and good looking"-snobs!

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