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Sometimes I wonder about Mary Carrilo

During the final when vee was making all the forehand winners she said that "her forehand holds up better on grass". Could someone please explain that to me? Because that theory does not make sence to me.
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I seem to remember her saying that on grass because of the faster ball speed that Venus just has to react to hitting her forehand instead of having to think too much of technique or something like that!

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Didn't Venus change her forehand grip becuase she wanted to win Wimbledon and have a grip for grass? That may be the reason why it holds up on grass.

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Does anyone know what Mary Carillo's best result at a GS was when she played? Cause she sure does have the solution for every players problems, yet couldn't figure out how to play herself.
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During the final when vee was making all the forehand winners she said that "her forehand holds up better on grass". Could someone please explain that to me? Because that theory does not make sence to me.
That woman often says things that don't make sense.
I also posted a "What did she mean when she said..." thread, and no one could provide an adequate answer.
I swear the woman is as contradictory as Ying and Yang.

Here we have a respected commentator who just says 'stuff' and expects intelligent people to simply accept it as the truth. How embarrassing.

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I guess it has to do with the lower ball bounce, and the fact that on grass she doesn't have to hit so many forehands in a row to the point she starts missing, and doubting herself. She still missed quite a few, but since on grass she can go for it instead of slugging it out from the baseline, like can happen on clay and hardcourt, the errors didn't sabbotage her game this time around. She didn't give her opponents time to exploit her forehand until it broke down

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Carillo was right. Because of the speed and pace of the ball on grass, it helps Venus in two ways.
1. Pace helps give Venus control on the forehand.
2. The ball coming in so fast helps Venus because she has less time to think. I have seen many times over the past two years where a floater comes in to the center of the court. Venus has an eternity to think of what she wants to do with the ball. And she dumps into the net. Sometines having too much time to think can throw off the timing of your swing. With Venus's huge back swing and early preperation, more time to think often hurts her, and she isn't able to establish a forehand groundstroke rythm. Pace helps Venus develop a rythm. I hope I was clear there. I play tennis in real life, and people who don't play, may not know about how a lack of pace can be tougher to deal with, then a ball hit fast and hard.
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Does anyone know what Mary Carillo's best result at a GS was when she played? Cause she sure does have the solution for every players problems, yet couldn't figure out how to play herself.

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Does anyone know what Mary Carillo's best result at a GS was when she played? Cause she sure does have the solution for every players problems, yet couldn't figure out how to play herself.
Ain't that the damn truth.
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Lol, If this were really true then Mary Carillo would have stated that Venus's forehand would not be a liabilty for her at Wimbeldon. .


She only stated this because Venus's forehand held up to beat Pierce,Sharapova and Davenport.

I actually had the volume turned up because Mary was so quiet during the final.

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As she has grown more confident as a tennis commentator, so she has become more authoritaive in tone and bold in her assertion.
However, when reality does not seem to support her authoritaitve assertion,
she has a way of wiggling out by finding some weak explanation.
She has never acknowledged when she is wrong. She just goes to something else.

We all remember the refrain during the WS domination, "when playing the sisters, just center the ball". She is even more adamant about "centering the ball" when Venus palying Jennifer, her favorite.

One more observation about Mary.

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I actually had the volume turned up because Mary was so quiet during the final.
I noticed the same thing.... Whatshisname talked the entire time from 6-5 2nd set until the end, while I guess Mary was sulking in the corner I don't know. I don't think she had a Plan B of what to say if Venus were to show up ready to play She was talking alot, well no more than normal but....and once Lindsay dropped serve @ love & lost the set in the TB she didn't have anything to say .... I forgot to ask if anyone else had noticed the silence & the fact that that guy, whose name escapes my mind @ the moment, practically talked to himself for the remainder of the match. Where was John Mcenroe....was he in there???
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Mary is just digusting.

Really, don't even look at me...
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post #15 of 57 (permalink) Old Jul 6th, 2005, 03:36 AM
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Ted Robinson was the only voice in that booth when Venus was winning for sure.
John MCEnroe has done the final with the BBC since 2003.
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