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Ok stat hounds, who has had the best Slam record so far in 05?

Now that three Slams are in the book in 05, I was wondering who has had the best records in all the events up til now?

Lindsay Davenport is 16-3 and Maria Sharapova, 14-3; but of course, neither won a Slam.

Meanwhile, Slam winners, Serena Williams is 9-1, Venus Williams, 12-2 and Justine Henin-Hardenne, 7-1.

So technically has performed the best in Slams so far in 2005?
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Its hard to say who has the best record as their is 3 different winners but Maria Sharapova is the most consistant player over the season, reaching Quarter Final or better in every tournament entered.
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You answered it already:
1. Serena Williams, 9-1
2. Justine Henin-Hardenne, 7-1
3. Venus Williams, 12-2
4. Lindsay Davenport, 16-3
5. Maria Sharapova, 14-3

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Its hard to say who has the best record as their is 3 different winners but Maria Sharapova is the most consistant player over the season, reaching Quarter Final or better in every tournament entered.
Surely Davenport is more consistent than Sharapova

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Its hard to say who has the best record as their is 3 different winners but Maria Sharapova is the most consistant player over the season, reaching Quarter Final or better in every tournament entered.
Both Davenport (9 tournaments) and Sharapova (10) have made the quarter final in every tournament entered in 2005, with Davenport making 6 finals winning 2 and sharapova making 4 finals and winning 3.

In the Slams, Lindsay has to be the most consistent with 2 finals and a quarter final, compared to Sharapova with 2 SF's and a QF.
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Serena. you answered ur own q
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You answered it already:
1. Serena Williams, 9-1
2. Justine Henin-Hardenne, 7-1
3. Venus Williams, 12-2
4. Lindsay Davenport, 16-3
5. Maria Sharapova, 14-3
Of course, if we look at the stats, it'd be that.
But, the third round loss of Serena at Wimbledon make me disagree with this ranking. Same with the first round loss of Justine at Wimby, though she was injured.
And it's quite clear that with her 7-6 6-1 loss against Schiavone, Serena wouldn't have gone far at RG (but this is just a supposition)

Mine would be :

1. Sharapova, though I don't really like her. In each GS, she lost to the winner, and had less luck than Davenport in the draws (Justine in the quarters at FO). She always fight on every point (just watch the 2 setpoints she saved against Venus). She was a bit more impressive than :
2. Davenport, very close to Sharapova though, but chokes a bit too much for someone who is supposed to be the best. She reached the finals of AO and Wimbledon, but left both tournies with a bad impression.
3. Justine : that first round loss at Wimby as a/the favourite was . But it might be explained by her injury.
4. Venus : outstanding Wimbledon, but in the other GSlams, she was really shaky.
5. Serena : I'm very disappointed by her. Even the level she displayed at AO wasn't that great (at least not as Justine or Venus' when they won their GS).
6.7. Pierce/Kusnetsova
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you know, i would prefer to win a slam and lose first round at the other two
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Of course, if we look at the stats, it'd be that.
But, the third round loss of Serena at Wimbledon make me disagree with this ranking. Same with the first round loss of Justine at Wimby, though she was injured.
And it's quite clear that with her 7-6 6-1 loss against Schiavone, Serena wouldn't have gone far at RG (but this is just a supposition)

Mine would be :

1. Sharapova, though I don't really like her. In each GS, she lost to the winner, and had less luck than Davenport in the draws (Justine in the quarters at FO). She always fight on every point (just watch the 2 setpoints she saved against Venus). She was a bit more impressive than :
2. Davenport, very close to Sharapova though, but chokes a bit too much for someone who is supposed to be the best. She reached the finals of AO and Wimbledon, but left both tournies with a bad impression.
3. Justine : that first round loss at Wimby as a/the favourite was . But it might be explained by her injury.
4. Venus : outstanding Wimbledon, but in the other GSlams, she was really shaky.
5. Serena : I'm very disappointed by her. Even the level she displayed at AO wasn't that great (at least not as Justine or Venus' when they won their GS).
6.7. Pierce/Kusnetsova

Look at the draws, please, Maria had much easier ones then Lindsay in both RG and Wimby.

Maria didn't ger Justine, she got Svetlana, who actually was very close to being there.
Lindsay on the other hand had Kim even earlier, in the 4th round.
The fact that Lindsay was able to beat tough competion, and Maria not, doesn't make Maria better, just because you like her more.

Justine in the QF is not a bad draw, that's normal. Sharapova had Llagostera Vives and Dechy in 4th rounds, compare them to Kim Clijsters.


In the last 4 slams:
Lindsay - SF, F, QF, F
Maria - 3rd round, SF, QF, SF

Only a biased person can say that Maria's results have been better!

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you know, i would prefer to win a slam and lose first round at the other two
Exactly!!

For players like Venus, Justine, Serena even finals doesn't count! (Unless they're just coming back from victory)

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Look at the draws, please, Maria had much easier ones then Lindsay in both RG and Wimby.
What? Maria got Justine, red-hot favourite on clay - in the QF!

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Maria didn't ger Justine, she got Svetlana, who actually was very close to being there.
Your memory modules must be sparking out. Maria certainly got Justine. While Davy got a choking Kim and Sveta.

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Justine in the QF is not a bad draw, that's normal.
No. Not for 2nd seed to meet the red-hot favourite in the Quarters. If seeded correctly they shouldn't meet before the Semis.


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In the last 4 slams:
Lindsay - SF, F, QF, F
Maria - 3rd round, SF, QF, SF
Yes but Maria has won a slam recently, and beaten Lindsay doing it.

Maria has gone out to the eventual winner in all slams this year. Davenport is ahead of Maria in consistency, but han't won for half a decade.

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You answered it already:
1. Serena Williams, 9-1
2. Justine Henin-Hardenne, 7-1
3. Venus Williams, 12-2
4. Lindsay Davenport, 16-3
5. Maria Sharapova, 14-3
Ah statistics. It depends what treatment you give the figures.

Dealing with them another way. which takes into account the number of matches actually played...

1. Lindsay davenport 13 (16-3)
2. Maria Sharapova 11 (14-3)
3 Venus Williams 10 (12-2)
4 Serena Williams 8 (9-1)
5 Justine Henin-Hardenne 6 (7-1)

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lindsays been the most consistent this year...

2 quarter finals, finalist or better in every tourney

LINDSAY DAVENPORT!
Say what you like about Davenport, but shes achieved what most others could only dream of!

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Ah statistics. It depends what treatment you give the figures.

Dealing with them another way. which takes into account the number of matches actually played...

1. Lindsay davenport 13 (16-3)
2. Maria Sharapova 11 (14-3)
3 Venus Williams 10 (12-2)
4 Serena Williams 8 (9-1)
5 Justine Henin-Hardenne 6 (7-1)
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What? Maria got Justine, red-hot favourite on clay - in the QF!


Your memory modules must be sparking out. Maria certainly got Justine. While Davy got a choking Kim and Sveta.


No. Not for 2nd seed to meet the red-hot favourite in the Quarters. If seeded correctly they shouldn't meet before the Semis.



Yes but Maria has won a slam recently, and beaten Lindsay doing it.

Maria has gone out to the eventual winner in all slams this year. Davenport is ahead of Maria in consistency, but han't won for half a decade.
Maria got Svetlana in the QF, Justine just happenned to beat her, check the draw. The draw as done normally. There's no way Justine should have been in the Top 4 for RG over the girls who played whole year and also deserved their ranking, so no, not necessarily they had to play in the semis. Masha can't be Always lucky like in Wimbledon.

Had Maria become #1 during clay season when her Wimbledon mattered, she'd be a deserved #1 hands down. And she did have the best results in slams prior to Wimbledon. You won't find me doubting that.

But right now Lindsay's results are better.

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