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Will Maria EVER gain the #1??

After this round, Lindsay is now nearly 800 points in front of Maria-

Does anyone know what it would take for Maria to reach #1? I'm assuming some time during the American hardcourts...
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Yep, as all big hard-court tournies are staring later this year, Lindsay will start losing points without a chance to defend them.

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Maria is 18... she has a lot of time and she is a great player... I think she will be number one one day.

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She'll eventually be #1 this year, not so sure about ending as #1 though.



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Sharapova will be VERY CLOSE. After Wimbledon, Lindsay is supposedly playing FED CUP and nothing else till Stanford. Lindsay will lose 175 points from Cincinnati. She might decide to play Cincinnati after all on a wildcard like last year just to get the bad taste of clay courts out of her mind. So if Lindsay loses to Clijsters on Monday and Sharapova wins Wimbledon and Sharapova plays and wins Stanford then that would be enough. It's a lot of ifs for sure but Sharapova can do it if she wants.
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Sharapova will be VERY CLOSE. After Wimbledon, Lindsay is supposedly playing FED CUP and nothing else till Stanford. Lindsay will lose 175 points from Cincinnati. She might decide to play Cincinnati after all on a wildcard like last year just to get the bad taste of clay courts out of her mind. So if Lindsay loses to Clijsters on Monday and Sharapova wins Wimbledon and Sharapova plays and wins Stanford then that would be enough. It's a lot of ifs for sure but Sharapova can do it if she wants.
Cincinatti was in mid August last year, Stanford on the other hand was in the mid-July. These points she's gonna lose, Cincinatti is nothing comparing to those.

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Maria will be #1 this summer.... Take out points up for the hard court season (including US Open)... and Maria is over 800 points in front of Lindsay.... so Lindsay needs to do more than winning, she needs to hope for Maria to play little and lose early... I just don't think Lindsay will have 800 points more from now till August than Maria.

Also need to consider that if Lindsay does get some of those points in Wimbledon, she'll be tired after going to Moscow for Fed Cup and might not even play all the tournaments she played last year....

And in a more short term view, take out points from Stanford, SD and LA and Maria is already a few hundred points in front of Lindsay...

Of course all of this depends on Maria getting far in Wimby
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Remember that Maria lost early in last year's U.S. Open while Lindsay made the SF. Maria can gain a lot of points there, as well as in other summer tournaments.

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By the way... if you take out points of hard court season (including US Open), here is the top 10!

1 2 Maria Sharapova RUS 4026
2 1 Lindsay Davenport USA 3189
3 3 Amelie Mauresmo FRA 2934
4 4 Serena Williams USA 2525
5 7 Justine Henin-Hardenne BEL 2506
6 8 Nadia Petrova RUS 2174
7 13 Kim Clijsters BEL 2074
8 5 Elena Dementieva RUS 1962
9 6 Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS 1948
10 11 Patty Schnyder SWI 1943
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I think Maria will get to number one - it's inevitable. As for when??? That's a toss-up.

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Let's say Maria gets like 800 points through the hard court season... then Lindsay needs about 1600...(she got 1770 last year).... when you consider she'll probably play less... it makes it very likely...

800 points is not a lot for Maria to get... a good part of it could come from the Open... and then maybe a few SF or Finals...
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By the way... if you take out points of hard court season (including US Open), here is the top 10!

1 2 Maria Sharapova RUS 4026
2 1 Lindsay Davenport USA 3189
3 3 Amelie Mauresmo FRA 2934
4 4 Serena Williams USA 2525
5 7 Justine Henin-Hardenne BEL 2506
6 8 Nadia Petrova RUS 2174
7 13 Kim Clijsters BEL 2074
8 5 Elena Dementieva RUS 1962
9 6 Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS 1948
10 11 Patty Schnyder SWI 1943

You forgot one thing. Lindsay has only lost once before the SF since 1998 at any of the California tournis. She's made it to the final of at least one of those Cali tournis since 1998 as well. Lindsay is the most consistent player on tour and like Sharapova hasn't lost in any tourni before the QFs yet. Odds are that one of them will probably have to play Clijsters before the SF. One of them will lose. Let's see where the luck of the draw is. Will it be for Lindsay, like it was during the red clay season? Or will it turn in favor to Sharapova?
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You forgot one thing. Lindsay has only lost once before the SF since 1998 at any of the California tournis. She's made it to the final of at least one of those Cali tournis since 1998 as well. Lindsay is the most consistent player on tour and like Sharapova hasn't lost in any tourni before the QFs yet. Odds are that one of them will probably have to play Clijsters before the SF. One of them will lose. Let's see where the luck of the draw is. Will it be for Lindsay, like it was during the red clay season? Or will it turn in favor to Sharapova?
Oh I have no doubt that she'll do very well there, no doubt at all... Just saying:

1-it would be very hard to do better than last year, where she was basically unbeatable except at the Open

2-even if Lindsay does play as well, it's still probably unlikely she'd keep #1 (unless for example she wins the US Open...)
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Oh I have no doubt that she'll do very well there, no doubt at all... Just saying:

1-it would be very hard to do better than last year, where she was basically unbeatable except at the Open

2-even if Lindsay does play as well, it's still probably unlikely she'd keep #1 (unless for example she wins the US Open...)
You forgot one more thing.
Lindsay only played one top 5 player in her California tournis. She's lacking lots of quality points. She beat Venus, Serena, Zvonareva, and Myskina in finals. Only one of those players was in the top 5 when she beat them. She could still gain some points. It's not as impossible as it seems.
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You forgot one more thing.
Lindsay only played one top 5 player in her California tournis. She's lacking lots of quality points. She beat Venus, Serena, Zvonareva, and Myskina in finals. Only one of those players was in the top 5 when she beat them. She could still gain some points. It's not as impossible as it seems.
She got big points for Venus in Stanford at least. Venus was under protected seeding still.

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