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I would have rather seen Serena lose to Angela Haynes than Jill Craybas

Well. It makes you wonder. Did Serena know of Richard's wishes of not wanting her to play before she played against Jill Craybas? I'm a Serena fan but I don't know about this lost. A couple of times it seemed that she didn't want to be there or win this match. I don't know what the reason for that lack of intensity but it was there I know that for sure. Maybe she didn't want to play Venus in her condition, who knows. Jill Craybas played a good match but not great. She probably played the best against Serena that she'll ever play. I'll give Jill some credit. One thing I believe though. If Craybas happens to find a way to beat Venus. I really really really think Venus should retire at the end of the year. Venus couldn't be set up any better to get to the quarters. For Venus to lose to a player like Jill is saying that maybe she doesn't even belong in the top 20.
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Craybas plays better than Angela Haynes in many ways. Angela is flashy but her backhand is suspect and her forehand a bit too loopy and complicated.
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Yeah I agree that Haynes really should've knocked Serena out. I mean Serena was just like scrambling the whole time.
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One things for sure: Angela Haynes is a very very talented young woman and her time will come... no doubt about it. She really took it to Serena in that match

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Craybas plays better than Angela Haynes in many ways. Angela is flashy but her backhand is suspect and her forehand a bit too loopy and complicated.
She did not play better than Anglea. Serena simply played worse.

Not surprising. After two tough three setters when youre injured and out of shape and lack match toughness what do you expect?

Jill is a lucky gal she took advangtage of the situation.

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She did not play better than Anglea. Serena simply played worse.

Not surprising. After two tough three setters when youre injured and out of shape and lack match toughness what do you expect?

Jill is a lucky gal she took advangtage of the situation.
you're biased. jill's precision and counterpunching are VERY IMPRESSIVE. Serena hit the ball with more authority here than against Haynes where Serena simply pushed the ball and drew the errors from the inexperienced girl from Compton.
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you're biased. jill's precision and counterpunching are VERY IMPRESSIVE. Serena hit the ball with more authority here than against Haynes where Serena simply pushed the ball and drew the errors from the inexperienced girl from Compton.
You sound real stupid right now.
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Same for me. I wouldve prefered her to lose to haynes an up and comer but not a 30+ year old

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You sound real stupid right now.
Actually he's right.

Jill just played more precentage tennis, getting many balls back.

If Angela had Jill's speed and played percentage tennis she would have won too.


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you're biased. jill's precision and counterpunching are VERY IMPRESSIVE. Serena hit the ball with more authority here than against Haynes where Serena simply pushed the ball and drew the errors from the inexperienced girl from Compton.
Sorry I disagree. Maybe you watched another match. Angela did everything better than Jill.

Jill simply faced a even more tired out Serena who couldnt even hold serve in the first set.

Don't get me wrong, Jill played well and it was impressive because she took advantage of a floundering top player. Thats all.

Oh and I think you are biased because Jill's win is fresh in your mind and she actually won while Anglea's match was days and days ago and she lost.

I have it on tape. She played better than Jill.

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I was thinking the same thing and as much as i love Vee i don't think she could beat Angela if she played the way she did against Serena IMO she could have probably made it to the QF but oh well get better Rena .
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It would have been better for the game if a rising newcomer like Angela had knocked Serena out. Craybas is on the verge of retirement. The win would have done wonders for Haynes' career.

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