Originally Posted by Brαm
How is this relevant in a thread about Vinci?
Bram, first the thread title is about Els Callens giving match advice to Kim Clijsters. Now you're a smart young fellow, who I've always liked here (and still do, BTW). Which also means that your smart enough 2C the relevance. But as you insist, I'll "paint you a picture".
As you know, Lei traded Kim playing (defunct after '03) Leipzig to get '02 and '03 MD WC's for the Winless Wonder. (He didn't have to "trade" re. Antwerp, as his buddy Verbeeck is the TD, besides being Kim's agent). And in Antwerp, it was also for '04, until Elke took @ least "a break" from the tour.
And in '04, Els was gonna get screwed out of it, until Flipper had to withdraw with an injury. (Though Caroline Maes also deserved it more than the clearly "going nowhere" Elke did, but she didn't get one). Right and wrong is not determined by who you or I like as a player.
This "endless payoff" was wrong, and Kim clearly could have told Lei and Bob: "Stop it". And Els is being a wimp IMO for not refusing 2B involved with the "Gang of Four" (Bob, Lei, Kim, and Elke) as she knows damned well that they took what they wanted, whoever else may have deserved it.