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Cash: Men Should Earn More Than Women

By Tennis Week
05/18/2005

Pat Cash celebrated his 1987 Wimbledon win by climbing into the stands to hug his father and today Cash embraced the All England Club's policy of paying men more prize money than women at Wimbledon. Citing the fact men's matches tend to be longer and more physically demanding, Cash said men deserve to earn more than women because they work harder.
"Look at the way men play. They play tougher tennis, which is much more competitive," Cash told the media at a press conference in India organized by the Bengal Tennis Academy. "They play more sets and most of the matches run for longer period of time. So it is only obvious they only deserve to earn more. Look at the final in the recently concluded Italian Open. It went on for five-and-half hours. I have nothing against women's tennis. It is just that men work harder and deserve to earn more."

Mourning the demise of the serve-and-volley style he played, Cash said serve-and-volleyers have become an endangered species.

"Tennis has changed a lot over the years. Since my playing days and now, it's a very different game and the approach to it is very different," Cash said. "Look at the height and strength of the players. Now it is a power game. It's not as pretty as before, but certainly more effective. The players serve better than ever before. But we don't see many players volleying. It's almost a lost art."

Three of the four majors were once played on grass. Cash points to Wimbledon ss the lone Grand Slam staged on grass — as well as the fact top players seldom play doubles anymore — as the primary reasons for the growth of baseliners and the demise of serve-and-volley tennis.

"The future of grass court is Wimbledon, unless the grass stops growing," Cash says. "It is the biggest tournament on grass and it will remain that way. Actually, grass courts are expensive to maintain. It is much easier to lay the clay courts. Nowadays, players stress more on playing singles. This is not very good for world tennis. But I guess it's going to be that way."
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he needs to be shot in the fucking head.

are u telling me that people actually sit through 5 set matches?cuz i know i cant, it'd get too mind-numbing.

more competitive? gimme a break!that explains why the drama is all on the women's side.

anyway, what about doubles? they dont always play best of 5 now do they. even singles. wtf? the one that draws in the crowd and tv ratings need to be paid more.

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he needs to be shot in the fucking head.

are u telling me that people actually sit through 5 set matches?cuz i know i cant, it'd get too mind-numbing.

more competitive? gimme a break!that explains why the drama is all on the women's side.

anyway, what about doubles? they dont always play best of 5 now do they. even singles. wtf? the one that draws in the crowd and tv ratings need to be paid more.
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are u telling me that people actually sit through 5 set matches?
MANY people do. Clearly you don't because you're clearly not a huge fan of mens tennis. And that's fine. For what it's worth I can't sit through more than 30 minutes of tennis without getting up to pace around and do something else at the same time unless it's a rivetting match. If it's a great match I don't really care how long it is.

That said, Pat Cash blows. I don't have a problem with somebody sounding off about how the men "deserve to be paid more" as long as it's a sound argument. Pat Cash has made sexist remarks in the past so it goes without saying what his motivation is.
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The men have a shitty deal, because they play 50% longer matches at Wimbly, yet make only 1% more money.

I agree with what Cash is saying. But the best solution for everybody would be to cut the men's matches to best of 3 and give equal money. The ATP needs to get wise the the fact the men are getting screwed. Why should they have to play best of five at the USO, when the women only play best of three and make exactly the same pay?
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The men have a shitty deal, because they play 50% longer matches at Wimbly, yet make only 1% more money.

I agree with what Cash is saying. But the best solution for everybody would be to cut the men's matches to best of 3 and give equal money.
Look about working hard, he sites Nadal at the Italian Open;
but what about JHH playing 9 sets of tennis in 2 days at
the German Open. Didn't Federer breeze thru his matches
at Hamburg?

The sad thing is he's saying this in India and is coming soon
to Singapore spewing his sexist 1930's crap to countries that
think he's giving them tennis knowledge.

*We're in the modern world now. Like cricket, tennis was
a rich person's sport. The crowd who came to matches
were so well off that they didn't have jobs. They could sit
and eat strawberries, drink for 5 hours. Now we can barely
sit still waiting on the internet for 2 minutes. Nobody has
the time for 5 hour tennis matches. Cash is still trying to
hold onto the facade that men's tennis is better than women's
tennis. I'm sure there's thousands of people out there that
prefer 40 minutes of Maria than 4 hours of Jiri Novak. Tennis
isn't carpentry labour- it's sport and entertainment for
the masses. High end matches is what people want! Highlight
clip stuff. Some people have lives that need to go on,
and following 1 men's 5 hour match daily at WIMBLEDON isn't
the plan.

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The sad thing is he's saying this in India and is coming soon
to Singapore spewing his sexist 1930's crap to countries that
think he's giving them tennis knowledge.

yeah but Cash didnt say anything sexist.

Rich Krajcek calling the women fat lazy pigs, now THAT was sexist.
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yeah but Cash didnt say anything sexist.

Rich Krajcek calling the women fat lazy pigs, now THAT was sexist.

Well.. what pisses me off about WIMBLEDON is the hypocrisy
of it all. If women get paid less, why are the tickets all the same
price? Shouldn't Maria matches be less than Nalbandian matches?

And what about the webiste. They charge a fee to see video
highlights of past WIMBLEDONs. Should the price be cheaper
for Serena' match highlights (since, it's so short!) and if
a players charisma or star power isn't important why even
have the Venus or Steffi matches? Why not put only Pat Cash
or Sampras matches? See it's bullshit- and they know it and
exploit it, yet are such skinflints that they refuse to pay the
women the same prize money.


Look at it in terms of pop music. Should Beyonce get paid
less for singing/dancing for 1 and 1/2s than unknown Brit
singer that sings for 5 hours! It's unthinkable and
insane, right? Well..tennis is like pop music now- people
want to see their favorite player, and not journeymen
workaholics play for 5 hours.

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Greeny, youre missing the point. The men are the ones who really get screwed here because they have to play all those extra sets. Simple solution. Get rid of the 5 set matches. Get rid of the token 1 percent extra prize money for the men. End of problem.
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I may be in the minority here since this is a women's tennis board, but I do enjoy five set matches. I feel some of the women's matches end too quickly (I've got nothing against women's tennis) and if the tennis is great...the longer the better! (Unless of course I want my fave players to win ) I follow both tours and am a big fan of the game but I can see what Pat is saying.

Solution? Make the women play best of 5 at the slams too.

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yeah but Cash didnt say anything sexist.

Rich Krajcek calling the women fat lazy pigs, now THAT was sexist.
Didn't Cash compare Davenport to a shot putter (when she was at the top of the game) and complain that most of the women's tour was out of shape based on that?
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Pat Cash almost seems to want to bring up that if you work more hours, you must get paid for those extra hours Just because men's matches last longer, doesn't mean they have to get paid more IMO. It also doesn't mean that they have to work harder.

Anyways, I just wonder what he had been smoking

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just another case of the old, retired tennis player saying something outrageous to again be in the spotlight. for 5 seconds.

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i think he is a fuckhead but i agree with him

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