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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old Apr 29th, 2005, 08:14 AM Thread Starter
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The books out on Venus Williams...

Right after Golovin dispatched Venus in straight sets at Charleston. Pam Shriver made the comment that "The book is out on Venus Williams".
My question is, since Venus has always had a shaky forehand, and horrible 2nd serve. Would Venus had won her majors if her opponents knew of her weaknesses? I have been examining past matches, and it seems to me that Venus's forehand wasn't much better than it is today. No wonder Venus thinks her game doesn't need major work. Venus may feel like she is playing close to her 2000/2001 level. When in reality that level isn't good enough these days. The girls now all hit the ball as hard or harder than the Williams sisters. Plus there are alot of them that are more consistent. I think Venus needs major reconstruction on her forehand. Hell she could probably hit a two handed forehand and make it pass the 2nd rd of Wimbledon this year. I hope she is taking all this time off to restructure her game. But I have a bad feeling she is hamming it up with the camera crew filming her reality tv series with Serena.
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no because venus' forehand just used to be the shot that would be most likely to breakdown under intense pressure in big matches as opposed to now where it just breaks down for no apparent reason beyond it being a poorly produced shot.

plus in the years gone by venus could rely on having a much more reliable serve and even her backhand never missed unlike today.

in other words this book has only become a best seller the last year or so because it is a pretty new release IMO
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The problem with Venus is the belief!

The book has been out on her forehand! Its always been her achilles, but when she beliefs in herself, and she plays with no fear, the weakness are not so apparent. The problem is not that any player hits harder or what have you. Even at the height of her power hitting, imo, other players still hit harder than her, but she was still superior.

She just cannot sort out her head enough.

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you could also say, would lindsay have won majors had the girls known her weakness was her movement? That hasn't changed much either.
you could ask the same question of every single player coz they all have weaknesses and have all learnt to win despite them. They just have learnt to use their strenghts to win not their weaknesses.
maria won wimbledon with an undone net game
serena has won 7 slams donating heaps of points to her opponents with the errors she makes

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Pam Shriver did not make a new statement about Venus' game. Her forehand has never been the strongest part of her game but it didn't desert her on breakpoints and other crucial moments in 2000/2003. The winners she hit at that time with her forehand were . Just watch her semifinal against Justine in Oz 2003.
Venus knew that she was going to win even when matches got tight because she was confident in herself and her game. That's why she hit all of her shots with conviction and aggression even when it was matchpoint for her opponent.

Nowadays she is lacking that same confidence that got her trough the big matches. You can see that her game is coming back to her but it won't be complete until she gets her mental strenght back to the point where she will beat the top players with a poised face like she used to.

Venus is giving her opponents the chance to hit the ball to her forehand all the time because she plays defensive a lot of times these days. But when she takes it to her opponents they're not able to, because they're to busy trying to get the ball back in play. So she has to play aggressive and charge the net more and by mixing it up she will become dangerous again.
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Pam's right, the book is out on Venus. One's called Venus envy and the most recent is Serving from the hip. So nice of Pam to promote her books.

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The problem with Venus is the belief!

The book has been out on her forehand! Its always been her achilles, but when she beliefs in herself, and she plays with no fear, the weakness are not so apparent.
I agree.

The book has already been out and was mentioned long before Pam said a thing. I remeber I think during the 00' Wimbledon final or 01' Chris Evert said the same thing. It's been out.

The problem with Venus is the belief, the confidence.

Her game has picked up immensly. The best she's been since 03' Wimbledon.
And for me, I've never seen her 1st and 2nd serve so solid and consistent.

Venus has it all and showed just as much against Serena, Maria, and Lindsay.
The porblem is not having the confidence in her game at the big moments.
Against both Davenport & Sharapova Venus would play well until the big points then her strokes and serve just went. The same nearly happened
against Serena but luckily she was able to pull it out.

No one can or will dispute that she's been hard at work on her game and it shows. Now however, she's got to work on her mental game and believe in her abilities.

It's a head game at this point.
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Pam's right, the book is out on Venus. One's called Venus envy and the most recent is Serving from the hip. So nice of Pam to promote her books.
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We already had a thread saying this, try to keep up henree.
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