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Red face What's Dementieva's problem with finals

Her record for a Top 5 player is pretty

Olympics 2000 lost to Venus Williams. No surprise. No one could beat Venus at that stage.

Acapulco 2001 lost to Amanda Coetzer. A good chance but Amanda loved Acapulco and was also playing well then.

Moscow 2001 lost to Jelena Dokic. Dokic was in great form at the end of 01 but after thrashing Hingis Elena missed a great chance for a title.

s-Hertogenbosch 2002 lost to Eleni Daniilidou. 2002 was a forgettable year for Elena so her only final being on grass was a surprise. Eleni was having/had the tournament of her life though.

Amelia Island 2003 beat Lindsay Davenport. Great tournament and easily the best career tournament win. Davenport was on fire there but so was Elena.

Bali 2003 beat Chanda Rubin. Favourite for tournament and was in too good of form to lose to Chanda.

Shanghai 2003 beat Chanda Rubin. See Bali.

Miami 2004 lost to Serena Williams. Awful. Everything was off and didn't make Serena move out of 1st gear.

French Open 2004 lost to Anastasia Myskina. Worst final of a slam since the millenium. Elena had lost before a ball had hit the court.

US Open 2004 lost to Svetlana Kuznetsova. Totally dominant for Sveta. Elena's run really put pay to her chances. Never really looked relaxed there.

Hasselt 2004 beat Elena Bovina. Survived after pressure. Elena's fighting skills were the reason she won.

Moscow 2004 lost to Anastasia Myskina. Totally collasped after losing 1st set.

Charleston 2005 lost to Justine Henin Hardenne. Chances yet again not taken.

Not impressive. I think Elena's big problem is her belief. It just isn't there in the really big matches.
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I was thinking the same thing, Dementieva just can not win. What is wrong with the girl.

Oh Yeah! It's that pathic serve. Go work on you serve Elena. You have wonderful ground strokes.
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It's not hte serve. She just can't "get up" for big finals like this.
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Lena has won 4 tournaments in the last 2 years. She's in the top 5.
She's doing okay.

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Well it’s pretty obvious that most will say her serve. Especially in today’s game when the serve is of utmost importance, it’s not just a way of starting the next point, like it was a few years back. Many players now rely on her serve, just like the men, to get herself out of trouble. Elena can’t do this.I’m amazed she’s done so well with her serve the way it is. Or else it says that the rest aren’t as good as they seem. Or else she would be getting pulverised more times.
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Lena has won 4 tournaments in the last 2 years. She's in the top 5.
She's doing okay.
I agree with what you say, she's doing okay. But I'm sure Elena said herself she wanted to be #1. And being just okay won't achieve this goal.
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she's like the modern version of mary joe fernandez. reaches lots of finals but usually ends up the runner up
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I agree with what you say, she's doing okay. But I'm sure Elena said herself she wanted to be #1. And being just okay won't achieve this goal.
The way to get to #1 is to defend her red clay points, and have a huge Wimbledon, with Lindsay and Maria not defending their points.
It's difficult, but not impossible.

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The way to get to #1 is to defend her red clay points, and have a huge Wimbledon, with Lindsay and Maria not defending their points.
It's difficult, but not impossible.
You stick by your player, good for you.

But I don't see it happening.
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Lena has won 4 tournaments in the last 2 years. She's in the top 5.
She's doing okay.
Doing ok is not good enough. She's almost 24...time to step it up, and win that tier1 and grand slam title.. Too many good teenagers coming up behind her. The pressure is on. She's such a great player. Groundstrokes are outstanding, especially forehand...and her retrieving skills are excellent. Serve needs work, but she's getting there. Now its a matter of mental strength and desire.

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Its quite frustrating. There needs to be a change in her mental game.

It just seems to crumble oh so slightly at key times, and that can be enough for her to lose her way.

Maybe a new coach may help?

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IMHO she needs to grow up while it's still not too late. I actually was astonished when I heard her cry "Out! Mommy, it was out!" on a questionable call during this year AO.
Olga as a coach is ok, IMO. But to my knowledge she's been expending too much energy fighting bugs in Lena's head and Mommy Vera.
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I actually was astonished when I heard her cry "Out! Mommy, it was out!" on a questionable call during this year AO.
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I like her but her serve is . Hopefully she will improve and win a GS one day. That would be uber kuyos.

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