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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old Apr 9th, 2005, 12:41 AM Thread Starter
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Why do the William's sisters have a hard time holding serve?

Is it me or does anyone else notice this? They both have two of the biggest serves in tennis and they still have plenty of trouble to hold serve. I know both of them did have stomach problems and are trying not to re-injure themselves. Serena is currently is haveing plenty of trouble against Sivia Farina Elia holding serve.

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It's not just the WS. It's the whole WTA.
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It's not just the WS. It's the whole WTA.
breaks of serve are so common the WTA... i remember in the second set of the FO Semi with Dementieva vs. Suarez, the first hold of serve happened in something like the 9th game... that's insane!
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They raised the bar on serving. Other people couldn't return. Then the tour learnt to deal with it. The serve were left with their technical weaknesses exposed and/or the serve helped injure them so they couldn't do it as well. You end up with an unreliable returnable serve matched by others for speed and a game built around it being a dominating weapon when its no longer as dominating.

Take out Davenport (except sometimes in key situations) Momo (except when it matters) and Kim and Alicia (on a good day) and Maria (most days) and most of the top 20 are in the same boat - though they don't have the memory of something better to worry about and many certainly don't expect their serves to do big things for them..
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struggling? Hmm..now against Silvia Serena's a bit off....but against Mary only lost serve once and had like 13 aces....what r we talking about?

Yeah....of course we have seen Serena's days of truly dominating with her serve....but even today it is by no means bad.

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Precisely!!!
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Not sure why breaks of serves are so common on the WTA side of things. On the men's side, if your serve is broken in a set, you can pretty much kiss that set goodbye; atleast when you're playing the top dogs. In women's tennis, a break means nothing.

The Williams' don't have any more trouble than anyone else on the WTA holding serve, but they tend to get lazy on their service games. As someone else stated, their serve used to be a huge weapon. I remember the 2001 Semifinals against Hingis when Serena had a 100% serving percentage in the second set... just amazing serving. Their serve has gone downhill extremely bad, and until they stop worrying about the power and start worrying about what's wrong technically with their (referring to the Williams') serves, nothing will change.

A better question... why hasn't Serena broken 130mph yet?


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All women tenni splayers are going to have this problem simply b/c your not going to see any player on the wta tour to hit serves in the 130's or high and lets face it anyone in the top 100 can handel a serve from 110-100... thats why power alone wont cut it. All the top players are going to hold more easily b/c thats why they are top players but Venus nor Serena lose serve anymore than the other top players.

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Honestly, it's more Venus that has trouble holding than Serena.

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It's not just the WS. It's the whole WTA.
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I couldn't have said it better myself.
LMAO!!!! So clever.

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LMAO!!!! So clever.
It just did IT in another thread. No longer clever or original.
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It just did IT in another thread. No longer clever or original.
Aw come on Julia. You were starting to be nice and post objectively. Now you're back to your old tricks.

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Aw come on Julia. You were starting to be nice and post objectively. Now you're back to your old tricks.
LOL, when we lie down with dogs, we get fleas.

We shall never repeat these mistakes, shall we?

Example: You see how "Julia's" initial bait was ignored and she came back to the thread like a desperate dog in heat, hoping and prodding for more provocation? "Julia" NEEDS us, dont you know that we OWN her? Without us, she is NON-EXISTENT!

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