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Your just another Hater, all the things you have said so far on this forum where about Maria in a bad way, get a life !!

And she does a lot more then just power, people who think that haven't seen her play or just don't wanna see anything !!
No sorry I don't have a life. My soul purpose is to expose Maria for what she really is, an overrated ball basher!
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No sorry I don't have a life. My soul purpose is to expose Maria for what she really is, an overrated ball basher!
thanx for telling the truth....

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thanx for telling the truth....
Thanks for agreeing that she is an overrated ball basher.
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Thanks for agreeing that she is an overrated ball basher
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It's not about starting another Anti Maria thread
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Maria overpowered Venus in the SF, she was bashing the ball around the court, forcing errors, whereas Venus was making lots of unforced errors too. So I say, Venus and Serena are really taleneted in other things than crushing balls too, I've watched so many matches of V&S in 1998-99 and they have power but I have noticed how they did these great drop shots , then lob volleys, coming to the net more often. V&S use their power 'cause they have it, but they do have plan B, I've seen it. They are better in defense too. Venus really got to know how to play Martina in 1998, Serena too. They mixed it up, hit extra shots when they needed to, came to the net.Serena made the fourth round of French at 16 in 1998, before losing to eventual champion Arantxa 6-4 5-7 3-6, she knows hot to play clay courts too.

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It's about a question of time, Maria is a rising star, so people cheering her but if she became so dominant as Serena, Seles or Graf, the people who dislike her will appear behind the rocks. It's always the same, when a new talent appears people like it, when she became dominant people dislike and at the end of her career pleople recognize her achievements
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It's about a question of time, Maria is a rising star, so people cheering her but if she became so dominant as Serena, Seles or Graf, the people who dislike her will appear behind the rocks. It's always the same, when a new talent appears people like it, when she became dominant people dislike and at the end of her career pleople recognize her achievements
That's SO true
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Interesting indeed.....so now it's yeah but she's acurate?

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You don't always have to turn this into Anti-Maria thing.
I think this is a good subject to talk about, Maria relies really much on big ground strokes, and forcing errors

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I like Sharapova because she's an aggressive power player.

I agree with the basic premise of this thread; why is it okay for her to be a power player but it was bad for Venus and Serena...

Sort of like all those Jen fans who say Serena just hits the ball hard.

And the Chucky fans who hate the sisters, "because they're arrogant".

GM has always been filled with these strange contradictions that no one seems to be able to explain.

And I love the so called "tennis fans" who act like Serena's never hit a drop shot or a lob before. :retard:

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I wouldn't call Maria's game 'power'...'power' is Serena, Alicia Molik etc but what I've noticed about Maria's game is her accuracy. In Wimbledon last year she hit lots of really good angled shots. From the Aus Open (in sydney we don't get the privilege of watching indian wells/miami...only the matches i taped from the aussie tourneys ) she didn't play that well, nothing memorable and I've been trying to figure out how she got as far as the semis, and again, accuracy...cos she didn't get that many unforced errors...(and her winners stats weren't that high either).

So yeah, I don't think her game's that powerful at all. If she wants to be put in that same category as Roddick she needs to put on some weight and commentators aren't raving about her power either, only for the fact that she's young, blonde, has won wimbly etc etc...
Accuracy? Yeah, you have watched Venus' and Serena's matches clearly, Serena's defense is better, better volleys already in 1998. Maria hits harder than Venus and Serena, I've noticed this.
Maria will improve her variety a lot for sure and that will bring her many more Slams, she's really young, so can't really compare

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I like Sharapova because she's an aggressive power player.

I agree with the basic premise of this thread; why is it okay for her to be a power player but it was bad for Venus and Serena...

Sort of like all those Jen fans who say Serena just hits the ball hard.

And the Chucky fans who hate the sisters, "because they're arrogant".

GM has always been filled with these strange contradictions that no one seems to be able to explain.

And I love the so called "tennis fans" who act like Serena's never hit a drop shot or a lob before. :retard:
Serena's saved match points with drop shot, for example vs. Martina Hingis in 2001 AUS QF. I think serena has terrific lob volleys and she uses this drop shot, lob volley combined sometimes, especially backhand lob is impressive

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Serena has a lot more variety than Maria, and she was considered the downfall of tennis. In case ppl didnt notice, Serena is also powerful and accurate. If she wasnt accurate and hit out all the time she wouldnt have won 7 Slams.
If you watch the match at the AO vs Sharapova, Serena used a greater variety of shots, trying to bring Sharapova in, hitting short slices which Maria couldnt handle, and angled shots to take her out of court.
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It's about a question of time, Maria is a rising star, so people cheering her but if she became so dominant as Serena, Seles or Graf, the people who dislike her will appear behind the rocks. It's always the same, when a new talent appears people like it, when she became dominant people dislike and at the end of her career pleople recognize her achievements
Serena was 17 when she won the 99 US Open, not in the top 5 and was not dominant then. The day after she won the media was filled with articles about how ugly her game was, how she was ruining tennis, and how many UE's she made (ignoring all her winners), etc. I remember a particular one in the Herald Sun written by Bruce Matthews. All about how Serena overpowered poor little Hingis with her ugly tennis.
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It's not about starting another Anti Maria thread, its a very fair question. Maria is all about POWER. It's called big babe tennis. You can put Davenport, Serena and Venus in that category. But why were the Williams cruxcified for years for their power tennis causing alot to say that the Williams are bad for tennis and that they are the downfall of womens tennis yet Maria is considered a genuis for it? It's a fair question. Maria is like Andy Roddick. Just bash the ball to death to make it impossible that your opponent can't return the ball. If Maria is down, we get to hear endlessy from the commentators how she 'fights' back, but all she does is turn up the power when she's down and out and bashes the ball real hard back to her opponent. Maria is the female Andy Roddick. I notice when they talk about Venus and Serena's game they always mention the word power. I don't hear the word power mentioned in Maria's game. Suggesting that Venus and serena are just simply to brutes just slugging it out and Maria has variety.

I think the best answer is because young players of this generation are all playing "power tennis" (well except for the very few)!

During the period where WS are criticized for their game, no other player played with so much power like they used to and tennis people where in a bit shocked because it is a revolution in the game. Remember how change affects the conservatives.

By now it is very fair to say that the WS has really revolutionizes the game and if tennis people would still insist on saying that "power tennis" is bad for the game then they will end up like the big joke they were because in all honesty everyone is playing "power tennis" nowadays and if they bash Maria for it, the they have to bash half of the WTA tour!

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