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Venus Can't Win From The Baseline Anymore!

Why is it that someone like Dementiava can have the worst serve in tennis yet she is one the top players in the business? Because Dementiava groundstrokes are so solid and can battle anyone from the baseline. Dementiava beat Sharapova the last time they met and Maria has an superior serve. Both Venus and Serena need to improve their groundstrokes. Venus and Serena can't keep up in the long rallies without balls going in the net and out wide. Venus faced a superior striker of the ball with great accuracy. Davenport will always be a challenge to Sharapova because her balls are struck so cleanly with conviction. Bottom line is that they play sloppy tennis. When serena was dominating Serena always finished the points quickly to avoid long rallies. With Venus's inconsistent ground strokes its going to hard to keep up with someone like Maria. Venus can't hit winners with accuracy. Earth to Venus and Serena, get a coach who will help with the ground strokes.I'am not a tennis expert but thats my observation. I could be wrong. Does anyone here agrees with me?
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Demented's ground strokes didnt look so great last night when she got waxed by Kimmie!!! YIKES!
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Demented's ground strokes didnt look so great last night when she got waxed by Kimmie!!! YIKES!
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yea kim played pretty well though, kims game matches lenas very well. They did have some nice rallies The Williams sisters need to learn how to be more consistent tho i agree.
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Correction: Maria beat Dementieva 4-6; 6-2; 6-3 in the Zurich SF in their last match (Exhibitions aside.) Officially, Maria leads Dementieva 3-1. With exhibitions included, Maria leads 5-2. What is your point?

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Correction: Maria beat Dementieva 4-6; 6-2; 6-3 in the Zurich SF in their last match (Exhibitions aside.) Officially, Maria leads Dementieva 3-1. With exhibitions included, Maria leads 5-2. What is your point?
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I for one, don't want Venus playing from the baseline. I'm with BJK. The more Venus is at net, the better off she is.

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I for one, don't want Venus playing from the baseline. I'm with BJK. The more Venus is at net, the better off she is.
Venus' potential as a tennis player exponentially improves everytime she is rushing the net and attacking. She doesn't serve and volley that often but uses her groundstrokes to open up the court to attack the net. Her only problem using that game plan would be those consistent enough to pin her at the baseline, like Sharapova did today.

If her serve were more consistent, she'd make one heck of a serve and volleyer. Venus has excellent touch at the net.
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Venus' potential as a tennis player exponentially improves everytime she is rushing the net and attacking. She doesn't serve and volley that often but uses her groundstrokes to open up the court to attack the net. Her only problem using that game plan would be those consistent enough to pin her at the baseline, like Sharapova did today.

If her serve were more consistent, she'd make one heck of a serve and volleyer. Venus has excellent touch at the net.
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Why is it that someone like Dementiava can have the worst serve in tennis yet she is one the top players in the business? Because Dementiava groundstrokes are so solid and can battle anyone from the baseline. Dementiava beat Sharapova the last time they met and Maria has an superior serve. Both Venus and Serena need to improve their groundstrokes. Venus and Serena can't keep up in the long rallies without balls going in the net and out wide. Venus faced a superior striker of the ball with great accuracy. Davenport will always be a challenge to Sharapova because her balls are struck so cleanly with conviction. Bottom line is that they play sloppy tennis. When serena was dominating Serena always finished the points quickly to avoid long rallies. With Venus's inconsistent ground strokes its going to hard to keep up with someone like Maria. Venus can't hit winners with accuracy. Earth to Venus and Serena, get a coach who will help with the ground strokes.I'am not a tennis expert but thats my observation. I could be wrong. Does anyone here agrees with me?

that has always been the scouting report on both Williams sisters: make them hit more than five baseline shots in a point on a regular basis, and you will beat them. Of course, the job is much easier now, becuse both of the sisters are more prone to spraying balls earlier in the points, than they used to do when they were at the top.
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Venus' potential as a tennis player exponentially improves everytime she is rushing the net and attacking. She doesn't serve and volley that often but uses her groundstrokes to open up the court to attack the net. Her only problem using that game plan would be those consistent enough to pin her at the baseline, like Sharapova did today.

If her serve were more consistent, she'd make one heck of a serve and volleyer. Venus has excellent touch at the net.

Venus with her long legs has too much trouble to get down for low volleys to be a major threat with serve and volley. The top women players love a target and Venus would be getting passed all day. Mixing it up and coming to the net once in a while is a good idea for her, but serve and volley is a whole other ballgame - even with a better serve than she has currently got.
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