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Okay my Russian Experts...

why in carnation is Maria K's last name Kirilenko instead of, say, Kirilenkova? Isn't Kirilenko a masculine name, as if she were a man?

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Yeah, there's a Russian player in the NBA with the last name "Kirilienko" so I guess it's "uni-sex", haha.
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it ends with an O not with a V so that might be the reason.


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I may be way off, but I think it may be Ukrainian.

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I may be way off, but I think it may be Ukrainian.
That's actually spot on. It's a Ukrainian name.

Why is it that the world never remembered the name of Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern-
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So they don't have gender for their words in Ukraine?

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it ends with an O not with a V so that might be the reason.

i just looked it up.
male names ending with IN or OV get an A for female version
male names ending with SKY get an SKAYA for female version
ALL other ending names stay the same for male and female!


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If her name were to be KirilenkOVA, the male version should be KirilenkOV. So I guess it's indeed a uni-sex name
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It IS a Ukrainian name but she was definately born in Russian.

Why is it that the world never remembered the name of Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern-
schplenden-schlitter-crasscrenbon-fried-digger-dingle-dangle-dongle-dungle-burstein-von-
knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz-ticolensic-grander-knotty-spelltinkle-grandlich-
grumblemeyer-spelterwasser-kurstlich-himbleeisen-bahnwagen-gutenabend-bitte-ein-
nürnburger-bratwustle-gerspurten-mitz-weimache-luber-hundsfut-gumberaber-shönedanker-
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look golovin why she doesnt have a A at the end golovina ¨:P
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look golovin why she doesnt have a A at the end golovina ¨:P
because she ain´t a russian anymore...most russians who change their nationality don´t hav the female form of their names.


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Yeah, there's a Russian player in the NBA with the last name "Kirilienko" so I guess it's "uni-sex", haha.
yes , andrej from the utah jazz
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Once again it is Ukrainian. I hope no one here thinks that you have to have a name that originates from the country to be a country(wo)man of the said place...
but it´s not the reason why kirilenko has no female form...it´s still because of the ending...


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That's actually spot on. It's a Ukrainian name.
That's funny, I recently asked a Russian friend of mine the same about the Russian opera singer Anna Netrebko, if it wasn't unusual that the name ended on an -o, and she told me that it was because the name is of Ukrainian origin. Well, I didn't actually contribute something new here, just thought I'd mention it.


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Julia Vakulenko and Larisa Savchenko are in the same boat as Maria Kirilenko, name-wise, as is Nikolay Davydenko. Bleedin' Ukrainians confusing Westerners with their lack of ova's in their surnames. Grrrrr.

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