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There are only THREE groups of Slam contenders

After three months of good and bad tennis on the WTA tour, it has become very apparent that there are only six Grand Slam contenders, in three different groups.

GROUP I (the best players on tour)

Serena Williams
Jennifer Capriati

Honestly, no one has had a better year than Capriati, and no one is better than Serena. For a while now I've said Serena is the better sister (better ground strokes, better serve, more touch, better return) but was always told to look at the head-to-head, the Slam titles, etc. Serena is just too strong, too fast, and lately, too consistent to be beaten. Maybe on clay, on a bad day, someone like Martina or Jennifer can beat her, but in her current form, she could dominate. As for Jennifer, she is a better fighter than anyone on tour, and although she has losing records to most players (Venus, Lindsay, Martina), she is without a doubt the second best right now and the best this year overall.

Group II (players who should win a Slam on their surface)

Martina Hingis
Venus Williams

Martina is having the best year as far as points are concerned, and Venus is having the best year as far as titles are concerned. Martina is the better player (IMO), and I think Venus' one-dimensional game is catching up to her. Similarly, Martina's lack of power has already caught up to her (three years and counting). Both of these players are usually considered the favorite heading in to matches, and share the best rivalry. But again, I see both of them losing to Capriati and Serena unless Martina plays them on clay and Venus on grass.

Group III (Slam threats, not favorites)

Monica Seles
Kim Clijsters

Monica Seles hits it harder than anyone except Lindsay Davenport, and Kim Clijsters hits it harder than anyone except...Monica Seles and Lindsay Davenport. Monica showed against Venus and Capriati this year that she hits it hard, flat, and pinpoint, and can beat any player on any day. Kim is a future number 1 IMO, and runs faster than anyone, but is too explosive and erratic (like the old Serena) on her shots. Once she gets some consistence, watch for Kim, the best "raw" talent, to win some Slams.

There you have it. Anyone outside of these six players is just not a Slam contenders IMO. Serena is the best right now, Jen is close behind, Martina and Venus are favorites on clay and grass, and Monica and Kim are the x-factors. Thoughts?
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I can't disagree with anyone who has such a high opinion of Kim although I might put Venus in group 1 instead of 2!!

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I would normally put Venus in Group 1, but Serena and Jen are just playing too well at the moment.
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Which will Lindsay fit into when she gets back on to the tour, or will we have to wait to see if she gets back to the Lindsay we know and love?
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Hmmm, Lindsay might go in group 2 or 3. But the groups would most likely change depending on how good a year the player is having.
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I guess This part of the year isn't Venus' best season... but once she gets into the Wimbledon & the U.S hard courts season, she'll probably show us all who's in the 'Group 1'...

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At the moment those groups are spot on but i've got the feeling they could be changing pretty soon
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I guess This part of the year isn't Venus' best season... but once she gets into the Wimbledon & the U.S hard courts season, she'll probably show us all who's in the 'Group 1'...

I couldn't agree more... since when has Venus done well in the beginning of the year?

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Not usually. But I'm positive that Venus will do much better come Wimbledon time. (althoguh I hope she wont)
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I'm not ready to count out Venus "Ms. Summer Breeze" Williams. I can see both Williams sisters trading that #1 back and forth for a while. Then they will only meet in finals
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post #11 of 29 (permalink) Old Mar 31st, 2002, 03:00 AM
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Anything can happen at the slams. Who predicted that iva majoli would win in Roland Garros 1997, serena williams in US Open 1999, or jennifer capriati in Australian Open 2001? The slams are very unpredictable events. That's what makes them fun to watch.
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You people are so Crazy.. Venus had one bad match this year and she is suddenly write off

I know, and Everyone one knows that if it wasn't Serena across the net on thursday it would be Venus holding up the trophy today.

Venus 5-1 agains Serena.
Venus 4-0 against capribrati

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Since when was Venus' game one dimensional??

Relax, she only had one bad tournament. If you want to see one dimensional take a look at Jen's game...
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Venus is definitely part of the groupI. HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!How couldn't she be when she's won 4 of the last 7 GS, and has a winning record againts both players you call the best ones??? Something got be wrong somewhere!!!!!!! RE-DO YOUR GROUPS !!!!

I agree with having Hingis in a 2d group though......she still is very dangerous but hasn't won a GS in more than 3 years now and has lost to Serena, Venus and JCap the last times they faced each other!!!!!!!!
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Venus in Group 2? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
Venus is ABOVE Group 1

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