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Does Justine need Kim (and viceversa)?

We all know that they hate each other.

As a Justine fan I don't like Kim, because of the San Diego incident.

But the two seem to do everything together, the got to their first GS final nearly at the same time, the got in the top ten at the same time, they got injured at the same time

I wonder if Kim being around gives Justine that extra motivation to go one step further, to raise her level one more bit.

I wonder if Kim had been back if Justine would have made a bigger effort to come back earlier.

I don't know if it's too extreme, but I think Justine gets some extra motivation with Kim around, they need each other (like black and white, the one can't exist without the other).
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i don't believe that they "hate" each other.
It is way too strong of a word. I agree that they are rivals, and that yeah they challenge each other to raise their levels.
For sure it wouldn't be the same if one of the two wasn't around

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i don't think Clisters and Henin hate each other, people tend to pump that theory up just for its entertainment value. They are huge rivals, which is not the same thing as hating each other. Justine hates the Williams sisters, and good on her for that as far as i'm concerned after the way they treated her.

But i agree that Justine pulling out of the AO right after Kim said she won't play, suggests there might be a bit of one-upsmanship going on.
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i don't believe that they "hate" each other.
It is way too strong of a word. I agree that they are rivals, and that yeah they challenge each other to raise their levels.
For sure it wouldn't be the same if one of the two wasn't around
trust me, they do hate each other.

After the San Diego comments and the dopping accusations, they really hate each other.
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trust me, they do hate each other.

After the San Diego comments and the dopping accusations, they really hate each other.
and you know this how? I mean, hate is pretty strong word....

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i don't think Clisters and Henin hate each other, people tend to pump that theory up just for its entertainment value. They are huge rivals, which is not the same thing as hating each other. Justine hates the Williams sisters, and good on her for that as far as i'm concerned after the way they treated her.

But i agree that Justine pulling out of the AO right after Kim said she won't play, suggests there might be a bit of one-upsmanship going on.
are you a permanent resident of La La Land or you are just visiting there?

Do you really think if somebody accuses someone else publicly of taking drugs, generating a huge controversy in your country when you were supposed to be received like a hero that someone else won't hate the other person?

is that entertainment value? whatever.

Justine hasn't showed that she hates the Williams sisters, she doesn't like them, obviously, but her relationship with Clijsters is way worse.
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I think so, just how Venus and Serena need eachother. You need someone else doing just a little better than you that is close to you at least somewhat to spur you on to top them.


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I thought that it was between the players families the fighting.

Not the actual players.

I am not convinced that Justine hates BOTH the williams sisters either as it seems to be just Serena that she has the issues with.

I would like to think they are independant and are both legitimately injured and Justines withdrawal has no bearing on the fact Kim previously withdrew.

When they come back they may be in a similar situation that both Venus and Serena were in when they returned to the tour.

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i think they need each other to pump each other's spirit!!!

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i think they need each other to pump each other's spirit!!!
are they as close as the williams sisters are with one another or the russians are with one another.

????

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People acting as if they know the players and how they feel about others is always funny but please don't try to present it like a fact or something
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I heard interviews that the russians were good friends. From the girls mouths themselves.

thats why i said the russians are close

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You mean like Maria Sharapova and Myskina ?

Anyways I was referring to the thread starter and not you
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I believe this is all just a coincidence. They're both around the same age anyway.
Who knows fate or destiny or something like that made it seem that their actions are similar?! Could it be there's a greater 'power' out there controlling all these instances. Other than that, they mainly do the things themselves and want to challenge the world, not just each other.

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thats so true.

all this friendship and stuff could be coincidence and the media trying to make headlines

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