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Will Russian Domination of the Tour Continue in 2005?

In 2004 the Russians dominated the major championships. Of the five biggest prizes in tennis. Australian Open, French open, Wimbledon, US Open, and the WTA Championships. Four went to Russian players. Only one went to a non-Russian.

Even were you to include the Olympics, with its restricted entry system, the Ratio woud still be 4-2 Russia versus Rest of World. This looks pretty much like domination.

Looking at all tournaments the case looks less solid, particularly in the lower tier events. But Lower Tier events do not really count towards a domination, since they are usually won in the absence of the higher-ranked players.

If we look at Womens Events of Tier 2 and above for the 2nd half of 2004 (since June) we find the following title winners:

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Elena Bovina 1
Maria Sharapova 2
Svetlana Kuznetsova 2
Anastasia Myskina 2
Total 7 events

Rest of World

Justine Henin Hardenne 1
Amelie Mauresmo 3
Lindsay Davenport 4
Serena Williams 1
Alicia Molik 1
Total 10 events.

No other nation comes close. If we further consider that all of Amelie's 3 wins, as well as Molik's, Serena's and one of Davenport's were against Russian Finalists, we can see how much the Russians have been dominating. In fact remove Lindsay and Amelie, and the rest of the World looks in a very poor state.

So, will the Russians continue to dominate the major events of the tour next year - particularly the slams? And who can stop them?

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I don't think they'll do it as good as 2004, in general.
Myskina and Sharapova maybe, but IMO Lena D and Sveta will lose speed this year...

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Dunno. Ask the Belgians, the Sisters, and Linds' obstetrician.
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It´s all about the numbers......russians are plenty, so the chances for them to win week in, week out, are better compared to other players AND they play a LOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTT!!

One player who can certainly stop them is Serena....if you look at her h2h against them as a group this year, she´s held herself pretty well....the only one Russian who seems to have her number is Maria...although their last match never really happened or only lasted for two sets at best...

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Im not sure about Sveta though I think Maria , Elena and Myskina will continue to do well this year - but now they are the favourites and the players are after them so it will be interesting to see

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The Russians haven't dominated the week to week Tier I's and II's.
But only Russians, Justine, and Serena, have won majors for years now.
I expect all 4 major winners are in that ^ group.

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Russian - Strong For '05, America - Weak

Pardon me for posting something I posted previously, but it seems apropriate to this thread. According to the figures below (which I compiled), not only do the Russians look good for the next few years, America looks pretty weak. On Nov 1, 04 there were 6 Russians under 20 years old ranked in the top 100. There were NO Americans! This does not bode well for the future of American tennis or for the WTA Tour. Sponsors will start fading away if there are no American stars on the tour.


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They'll continue to dominate, but i don't think they'll win 3 out of the 4 Grand Slams like this year.

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They won't dominate as in 2004

Lindsay will stop most of them if she is healthy. The two Belgians too if they can play fo 100%. I don't see Myskina/Dementieva/Kuznetsova beating Justine and Kim that easily. Plus, Serena is always there and Amelie knows how to handle them too.

Justine h2h:
DEMENTIEVA, ELENA (RUS) 6-1
MYSKINA, ANASTASIA (RUS) 6-2
KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA (RUS) 5-1
PETROVA, NADIA (RUS) 5-1
ZVONAREVA, VERA (RUS) - 3-0

Kim h2h:

DEMENTIEVA, ELENA (RUS) 5-1
MYSKINA, ANASTASIA (RUS) 5-3
KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA (RUS) 3-0
PETROVA, NADIA (RUS) NA
ZVONAREVA, VERA (RUS) - 1-0
SHARAPOVA, MARIA (RUS) 2-0

Mauresmo

DEMENTIEVA, ELENA (RUS) 5-3
MYSKINA, ANASTASIA (RUS) 5-1
KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA (RUS) 4-0
PETROVA, NADIA (RUS) NA
ZVONAREVA, VERA (RUS) - 6-0
SHARAPOVA, MARIA (RUS) 1-0

Davenport

DEMENTIEVA, ELENA (RUS) 10-4
MYSKINA, ANASTASIA (RUS) 4-2
KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA (RUS) 0-1
PETROVA, NADIA (RUS) 5-0
ZVONAREVA, VERA (RUS) 5-0
SHARAPOVA, MARIA (RUS) 0 -1
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Lindsay will stop most of them if she is healthy. The two Belgians too if they can play fo 100%. I don't see Myskina/Dementieva/Kuznetsova beating Justine and Kim that easily. Plus, Serena is always there and Amelie knows how to handle them too.

Justine h2h:
DEMENTIEVA, ELENA (RUS) 6-1
MYSKINA, ANASTASIA (RUS) 6-2
KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA (RUS) 5-1
PETROVA, NADIA (RUS) 5-1
ZVONAREVA, VERA (RUS) - 3-0

Kim h2h:

DEMENTIEVA, ELENA (RUS) 5-1
MYSKINA, ANASTASIA (RUS) 5-3
KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA (RUS) 3-0
PETROVA, NADIA (RUS) NA
ZVONAREVA, VERA (RUS) - 1-0
SHARAPOVA, MARIA (RUS) 2-0

Mauresmo

DEMENTIEVA, ELENA (RUS) 5-3
MYSKINA, ANASTASIA (RUS) 5-1
KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA (RUS) 4-0
PETROVA, NADIA (RUS) NA
ZVONAREVA, VERA (RUS) - 6-0
SHARAPOVA, MARIA (RUS) 1-0

Davenport

DEMENTIEVA, ELENA (RUS) 10-4
MYSKINA, ANASTASIA (RUS) 4-2
KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA (RUS) 0-1
PETROVA, NADIA (RUS) 5-0
ZVONAREVA, VERA (RUS) 5-0
SHARAPOVA, MARIA (RUS) 0 -1
I would agree that Kim and Justine might, if fit, be really challenging as they can play Russian tennis more consistently at their best (all forms of it too)

Your H2Hs though are historic though and history tells us what was not what is. The 2004 H2H might be more predictive and if you put all those players in a list and asked who was getting better in 2004 and who wasn't the first list would have the people whose surnames ended in "a" .
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a. Sharapova never won a Tier II or above (not counting Wimbledon and YEC). All her wins have been on Tier III or below.

b. it's funny how when Justine and Kim are not around is when this domination started. Atleast before Serena and Venus took their injury break after Wimbledon, Justine has already won a GS and 3 other Tier II or above titles (two of which are Tier I) and Kim has won 2 Tier Is and was a finalist in another one. The Russians didn't really do anything until everyone was too beat up to contest them. I love the Russians but when all they win are Tier III or below (except for Myskina and Bovina) and then losing to Amelie or Lindsay 6-1 6-1 in higher Tier events, that's not a domination.

in Justine's last 2 tournaments healthy (IW and AI) she defeated 4 Russians.
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good point shap.....it´s gonna be interesting to see what happens next year when hopefully everybody is healthy....still think that the russian domination is more a by the numbers thing than anything else, but we´ll see.

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