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Do you know where the name tennis comes from?

The name tennis comes from the French word tenez which means in English take!


And here some history of the sport:

The game of tennis is the same everywhere. The name given to the game differs in different countries. In Great Britain it is called Tennis or, to distinguish it from Lawn Tennis, Real Tennis or Royal Tennis. In the USA it is called Court Tennis: in France Jeu de Paume (hand ball): and in Australia Royal Tennis. The various names throw light on the development of the game. Tennis wasy played in 5th century Tuscany when villagers used to strike balls up and down the streets with bare hands.

In Great Britain, as in France, royal patronage ensured the continued popularity of the game. French Kings in the 16th century and Stuart Kings in the 17th century were enthusiastic players. George IV (1763-1830), Prince Albert (1819-1861) - there is a locker in the changing room at Hampton Court Palace which still bears his name - Edward VII (1842-1910) and George V (1866-1936) have all supported the game.

Lawn Tennis, which derived from Real Tennis in about 1874, is played on a marked-out surface without side or end walls. Court Tennis, to use the American name for Tennis, indicates that Tennis is played in a specially court with walls on four sides.

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Yep, to add some more to the linguistic explanation, according to the Collins English dictionary, the word tennis dates back to the 14th century Anglo-French "tenetz" which was the imperative form of "hold", which came from old French "tenir" to hold, and from Latin "tenere".

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Yep, to add some more to the linguistic explanation, according to the Collins English dictionary, the word tennis dates back to the 14th century Anglo-French "tenetz" which was the imperative form of "hold", which came from old French "tenir" to hold, and from Latin "tenere".
tenir is not old french, it's still exists and is still a usual word lol (tenez, not tenetz).. i think the expression 6-love also comes from french, but i don't remember from where exactly

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interesting

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tenir is not old french, it's still exists and is still a usual word lol (tenez, not tenetz).. i think the expression 6-love also comes from french, but i don't remember from where exactly
Yes tenez is the imperativ in French of the verb tener, which means hold and take.


But does anybody knows where the notion Grand Slam comes from? I searched in the dictonary and there was written that to slam means close violenty. But what does this have to do with the Grand Slam in tennis? Does it comes from French Grand Chalem?

And another interesting question is why you say in English for 15:0 or 1:0 for example 15 love or 1 games to love?

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Tenir does not mean take... takeis "prendre", but tenir just means hold...

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abut the lvoe thing i made some research ad found this.. one of the explanation is that it would come from french l'ouef, which means the egg cos a zero looks like an egg (i know it sounds silly), then l'ouef, would have become love in english...

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abut the lvoe thing i made some research ad found this.. one of the explanation is that it would come from french l'ouef, which means the egg cos a zero looks like an egg (i know it sounds silly), then l'ouef, would have become love in english...
First you are right with tenir! I wrote something wrong.

So l'oeuf is becoming love.


And does the expression deuce comes from the Frensch deux?
Because the two players have the same result.

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tenir is not old french, it's still exists and is still a usual word lol (tenez, not tenetz).. i think the expression 6-love also comes from french, but i don't remember from where exactly
Yeah, that confused me a bit too, but it's what the dictionary says. I think perhaps it means that "tenetz" (with a "t") was the old French imperative of "Tenir", but I may be wrong! I don't exactly know much about old French! lol!

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My coach told me that the scoring was "inspired" by the clock! Every score is a quarter of an hour (15, 30, 45, and then game) but he can't explain why we say 40 instead of 45.
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The scoring system actualy has a different origin...When there were some tennis amtches at the start, when a player was winning a point, he was going up 15 feet (don,t think it was feet but more another unity i don't remember!) After, he went up another 15 feet, to go to 30 and would play the point there....Then he would go up 10 feet only, cause it would be the distance to the net....So actully, to win a game, you had to win a point at the net!

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My coach told me that the scoring was "inspired" by the clock! Every score is a quarter of an hour (15, 30, 45, and then game) but he can't explain why we say 40 instead of 45.
This is what I've heard too !
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I thought the scoring is because they played for certain amounts of money (15 on the first point, 30 on the 2nd etc.).
And they have 40 instead of 45 because it was easier to pronouce in English.
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About the 15-30-40 what cdpoulin is right, but is coming from antoher ancient sport.. about the deuce thing i really don't know.. in franch now we say either "égalité" or "40a", 30a" or "15a"

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