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Another record for Lindsay!!

From Bob Larson´s tennisnewsletter:

Ranking Notes
In a week when only about a dozen Top 100 players were in action, and no one has much to defend, we can't say much here. One minor footnote might be in order: As you know, Lindsay Davenport ends the year at #1. She has 4760 points. That is the lowest point total for a year-end #1 since additive rankings were established in 1997 -- this despite the fact that the points table has been cranked up several times since then. The previous low was held by none other than Davenport, in 2001, when she had 4902 points -- about 5000-5100 on today's points tables. Other numbers: Martina Hingis ended 1997 with 6264; on today's points table, that would be close to 7000. Davenport ended 1998 with 5654. Hingis ended 1999 with 6074, and had 6180 at the end of 2000. Serena Williams ended 2002 with 6080. Justine Henin-Hardenne had 6628 at the end of last year (the theoretical record, though slightly behind Hingis when point inflation is taken into account).

More telling: We've often had a #2 player with more points than Davenport this year. In 1998, Hingis was #2 with 5366 (about 5600 in today's points). Davenport had 4841 as the 1999 year-end #2, and 5022 as the 2000 #2. Jennifer Capriati had 4892 as the 2001 #2. Venus Williams ended 2002 with 5140 points. And Kim Clijsters had 6553 at the end of last year.

Thus, although Davenport ends the year at #1, her year by historical standards was that of a weak #2 player!

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From Bob Larson´s tennisnewsletter:

Ranking Notes
In a week when only about a dozen Top 100 players were in action, and no one has much to defend, we can't say much here. One minor footnote might be in order: As you know, Lindsay Davenport ends the year at #1. She has 4760 points. That is the lowest point total for a year-end #1 since additive rankings were established in 1997 -- this despite the fact that the points table has been cranked up several times since then. The previous low was held by none other than Davenport, in 2001, when she had 4902 points -- about 5000-5100 on today's points tables. Other numbers: Martina Hingis ended 1997 with 6264; on today's points table, that would be close to 7000. Davenport ended 1998 with 5654. Hingis ended 1999 with 6074, and had 6180 at the end of 2000. Serena Williams ended 2002 with 6080. Justine Henin-Hardenne had 6628 at the end of last year (the theoretical record, though slightly behind Hingis when point inflation is taken into account).

More telling: We've often had a #2 player with more points than Davenport this year. In 1998, Hingis was #2 with 5366 (about 5600 in today's points). Davenport had 4841 as the 1999 year-end #2, and 5022 as the 2000 #2. Jennifer Capriati had 4892 as the 2001 #2. Venus Williams ended 2002 with 5140 points. And Kim Clijsters had 6553 at the end of last year.

Thus, although Davenport ends the year at #1, her year by historical standards was that of a weak #2 player!
But how many Tournaments DID Martina HIngis Play in 1998?
Lindsays ONly Played like 16 or 17 tournaments this Year Compared to Players that Played 20+ this YEAR!
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Just goes to show there's been no near-dominant player this year.

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exactly. the reason why the points have gotten lower overall is simply because the competition has gotten tougher. i'd say it's a rather nice record to be holding

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But how many Tournaments DID Martina HIngis Play in 1998?
Lindsays ONly Played like 16 or 17 tournaments this Year Compared to Players that Played 20+ this YEAR!
Don´t think it was much more than Lindsay had this year....and certainly Venus in ´02 played waayyy less than Lindsay this year.

It was just an interesting comment that I read.

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exactly. the reason why the points have gotten lower overall is simply because the competition has gotten tougher. i'd say it's a rather nice record to be holding
how is it in any way a nice record

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how is it in any way a nice record
with four different grandslam winners that is a nice record.....
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with four different grandslam winners that is a nice record.....
thats true i never thought of it that way, if i was number one if i would definately brag about having the record for the fewest amount of points ever

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At least this is something she can brag about.....I guess.

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how is it in any way a nice record
did you even bother to read?

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It was just an interesting comment that I read.
how convenient it was about lindsay!



well noone else has done as well as that this year. So everyones weak then?!

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At least this is something she can brag about.....I guess.
LOL@U...THat is NOT THE ONLY THING SHE CAN BRAG ABOUT!
Here U GO again DISSIN LINDSays YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She can BRAG About GOIN UNDEFEATED AGAINST THE WILLIAM SISTERS
DEFEATIN THEM IN SUCKY TIER 2s & in a GRAND SLAM & DEFEATIN
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yeah. shes got a lot more to brag about than some if she wants to!

LINDSAY DAVENPORT!
Say what you like about Davenport, but shes achieved what most others could only dream of!

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LOL@U...THat is NOT THE ONLY THING SHE CAN BRAG ABOUT!
Here U GO again DISSIN LINDSays YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She can BRAG About GOIN UNDEFEATED AGAINST THE WILLIAM SISTERS
DEFEATIN THEM IN SUCKY TIER 2s & in a GRAND SLAM & DEFEATIN
SERENA(YEC)

You changed colors, I see.....

It wasn´t even me made the point, why you attacking me. Of course Lindsay can brag about going undefeated the sisters this year. But when you see who more have beaten them this year, makes you wonder how much an achievement it really was.....I guess for Lindsay it´d be a huge one, after not beating since Venus was 20 and Serena was 19, soooo...

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how convenient it was about lindsay!



well noone else has done as well as that this year. So everyones weak then?!
Some moreso than others....some didn´t perform well consistently but peaked at the majors, some were consistently good for most of the year but didn´t really peak anywhere....the last one has always applied for Lindsay´s career and that´s why she ended as no.1...

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