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Sharapova is the real deal

This is NOT a thread about how wonderful (or awful) Sharapova is as a person.
She seems perfectly capable of being a bitch on a personal level, and her father is no prince charming, but then again so are a lot of other WTA stars and their parents.

Big deal. All that is par for the course.

I'm here to talk about Sharapova the player.

And Rollo says: Sharapova the player is a force to be reckoned with, and feared, and respected.

The frightening thing for her opponents is how fast she has been willing to try new things. The use of serve and volley and even a drop short or two demonstrates she isn't just going to sit still.

The key questions are:

1. Will she learn when to use the power and when to rein it in?

2. Serena really exploited the angles on a tennis court in 2002 (see the
French open in particular!). Will Sharapova learn this skill?

3. Continuing the develop serve and volley, the drop shot, adding spin to her second serve. and using slice.

Thoughts?

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Good post...Im certain Maria will be working on all those aspects of her game.
Whether they can be successfully moulded into her game will remain to be seen but there have been some positive signs at these championships with inclusion of the serve/volley and the drop shots which at times earned her some important points.
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Maria is for real.....had my doubts at first, but those are over. Girl has plenty of potential.

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i admit she is a good player, im not denying that for sure.

and when she's down (example: 0-4) she jus fights, she chick jus doesnt give up. she'll do anything to win: she'll scream, yell, pump her fists, bang at her chest (freaky, but yeh).. jus anything.. i think it intimidates the players... i wouldnt be surprise if it scares them anyways. and the looks she gives for winning a point or her opponent making a UE is .. like shes thinking "DONT MESS WITH ME B*TCH"

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I'm liking the serve-volleying. I'd love to see that implemented more!!!

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Maria is for real.....had my doubts at first, but those are over. Girl has plenty of potential.
Potential means expected to become or be; Maria has surpassed having potential and is now developing her future legacy. Like Rollo said, Maria is the real deal, right now.


There's a bit of Justine in all of us.


"The great thing about Henin and Federer is that each of them is a beautiful player and a superior competitor, so the divide is effectively bridged. Have there ever been a pair of No. 1 players who so fully represent the abundantly gifted as well as the fully-ripened competitor?"
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Maria's intensity and fight, and willingness to beat the shit out of the ball whether it is the first point or the last point reminds me of Monica.
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some of you are hard to convince eh?! i was already sure of masha's potential whan she won her first title.

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The frightening thing for her opponents is how fast she has been willing to try new things. The use of serve and volley and even a drop short or two demonstrates she isn't just going to sit still.
Very good points. Maria is working fast to get any "one-dimensionality" out of her play.

When I saw her first awful dropshot against Myskina, I groaned, because very few players can produce effective dropshots. But her next two were gems, that show she has been practising incorporating this element into her game. The long dropshot from the baseline was one of her best shots of the tournament.

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The key questions are:

1. Will she learn when to use the power and when to rein it in?
2. Serena really exploited the angles on a tennis court in 2002 (see the
French open in particular!). Will Sharapova learn this skill?

3. Continuing the develop serve and volley, the drop shot, adding spin to her second serve. and using slice.

Thoughts?
I think power is one of the keynotes of Maria's play. She is not going to become a Momo, specialising in loopy shots once the big serve has gone in. She will probably continue hitting 90% of her shots like bullets, though at the YEC I noticed she was able to trade loopy precise shots with the best.

Maria will probably try to build up her 1st serve power a little this year, since she is still below Momo and Serena in this area. She wants to be slow and careful with this, not to have the same sort of injuries.

I also think she will work more with Lansdorp on the angles, and improve in this area. Whether she will come in more to volley is the big question. Most baseliners seem very reluctant to do this...

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some of you are hard to convince eh?! i was already sure of masha's potential whan she won her first title.
Thanks, Nostradamus.
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Potential means expected to become or be; Maria has surpassed having potential and is now developing her future legacy. Like Rollo said, Maria is the real deal, right now.

I agree....I guess I used the wrong definition of potential.

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I agree....I guess I used the wrong definition of potential.


That's o.k. I looked it up...


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and when she's down (example: 0-4) she jus fights, she chick jus doesnt give up. she'll do anything to win: she'll scream, yell, pump her fists, bang at her chest (freaky, but yeh).. jus anything.. i think it intimidates the players... i wouldnt be surprise if it scares them anyways. and the looks she gives for winning a point or her opponent making a UE is .. like shes thinking "DONT MESS WITH ME B*TCH"
Yes. Her spirit and her will to win are a vital element in her play. That willingness to guts out a match and force a win are irreplaceable.

Sabine Lisicki, Maria Sharapova, Elena Dementieva,

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Nadia Petrova, Samantha Stosur, Ana Ivanovic.

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i agree that her tennis growth spurt has been awesome. when she collapsed after her victory last night you saw someone who had put everything out there to win. what's not to admire about that?

as for the ongoing character assassination, i suspect that that has more to do with some fans disappointment that Serena did not get revenge last night. but what we have here is the making of a terrific rivalry between these two top players with similarly aggressive styles.

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