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People were too quick to knock V&S and now fans seem quick to knock Masha.

I feel that over the years alot of tennis fans were too quick to criticise the Williams sisters because most of the time it was unjustified and the Williams sisters fans felt the criticisms weren't fair and so often on the tennis message boards. But now it seems that alot of tennis fans and some Williams sisters fans are unfairly criticising Maria Sharapova. The question is why? Maybe I'm not seeing the situation clearly but I think I am. It just seems that people and some Williams fan knock Sharapova for unfair reasons the way Venus and Serena were knocked when they were starting out on the WTA Tour and that's too bad.

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do you actually bother to read before you draw your conclusions?
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Is the disliking of Masha only limited to V&S fans? Other than them is she universally loved by all fans? Wow.

What I find interesting, and this is just an observation is that the same people knocking V&S are having fits that Masha is being knocked. Hypocrisy is the key word of the WTA forum
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Maria is the ultimate threat.

You will get no change from those fans.
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He didn't say it was only Williams fans. Perhaps you both need to read the post again?
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Kiwi, I try to read before I draw my own conclusions. And I in general get along with everyone on the boards. Maybe the anti Masha sentiment is more widepsread than I think but I don't like seeing good tennis fans and Williams supporters treat Maria the way the Willaims sisters have been treated and that's with alot of unfair criticism.

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cat, this is a trashy post because you are assuming and making and outrageous conclusion that ONLY Williams fans dislike Maria.

Dont try to come up in here and tell me that V@S fans had to hear the same crap that Maria fans are going through at this moment. What the Williams sisters themselves had to hear and go through has no bearing on Maria.

Do not compare the hate that people (media) had for V@S to what people are stating on this mere message board.


Maria is get hated on cause she is good. V@S were and still are hated on cause of the NATURE of the sport of tennis.

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People were too quick to knock V&S and now V&S fans seem quick to knock Masha.

What is to be confused about this title? Sure he or she then went on to use a lot and then some but the aim was at V&S fans. Otherwise the title would have been different.
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Kiwi, I try to read before I draw my own conclusions. And I in general get along with everyone on the boards. Maybe the anti Masha sentiment is more widepsread than I think but I don't like seeing good tennis fans and Williams supporters treat Maria the way the Willaims sisters have been treated and that's with alot of unfair criticism.
Ah dang, and here Willow was trying to say different. V&S fans are the aim and subject of this thread. Willow doesn't know how to read? Dang.
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Whovever in their fucking mind thinks that "the cat" is not singling out V@S fans is a biased outrageous fucking idiot!!!

Read the fucking topic!!! asses!

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The Williams girls tooks loads of flack and didn't really obtain superstar status until they had the results, well, Venus a little, but she took a heap of shit and it didn't really stop until she'd won a major and there were still these grumblings (among some) that they didn't have much talent and all they did was hit hard, that they were flukes, they wouldn't last, whatever. It seems the tennis public has taken quite faster to Maria, she's not nearly as ragged on as the sisters were and now that she's "made it" with the two big titles next year, she's like tennis' new darling. It took the Williams sisters longer to obtain the status as tennis' new darlings, they really had to prove it first, and had to do more than Maria has done now to obtain that status. So, I think some, and I do mean some, Williams fans are a little put off by Maria, like she hasn't had to achieve as much to get to this untouchable superstar status as the Williams had to do, and probably place race as a factor which makes them more pissed off. Perhaps it is. Venus was hyped to inter-planetary proportions before she had big results, don't get me wrong, but I think Maria has leap-frogged up to tennis royalty status faster than they did and with less results than they had to do, and it burns some of their fans.

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Pff they're just jealous.. Maria is a great player! I admire Serena.. but I hate it that she has always a bad excuse for her losses (against Maria)! Than she has to start to practise more! Maria is a great players and everybody has to be respect for her!

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He didn't say it was only Williams fans. Perhaps you both need to read the post again?
Do you mean me?

Personally I find 'the cat' to be a very good-natured poster. Yes he has his opinions, and naturally not everybody agrees with them.
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cat, this is a trashy post because you are assuming and making and outrageous conclusion that ONLY Williams fans dislike Maria.
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It just seems that people and some Williams fan knock and villify Sharapova for unfair reasons
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You make some fair points Dawn. It seems to me people are too quick in general to criticise players for various reasons and I stand by that.

Of course not Sju, I shouldn't have singles out the sisters fans to that extent because the anti Masha feeling is widespread and some of it does have to do with her winning.

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