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Fist pumps and "yes!" from injured SW double faults?

Can you picture ANY other player on the WTA that would do this?

I'm neutral on Sharapova, but did anyone else find it horrifically unsportsmanlike to cheer out loud (for yourself) when a hobbled Serena double faulted?
I would think most players would just internally say to THEMSELF (oh hell yea that bitch double faulted !) then move to the other side of the court.

I was appalled that Maria took such pleasure in slamming a 70mph serve cross court from an opponent who could not even stand up straight !

Is it her immaturity (age-wise)? There's no top 50 player that i can think of that would vocalize a cheer for a crippled opponents double fault.
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Amelie Mauresmo or Anne Kremer would never be so unfair.


It is not fair what Sharapova did. It's egoistic.
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If I were a top tennis player, playing a final worth $ 1 000 000 and my opponents gets the momentum then I would :

1) fake an injury and ask for the trainer, preferably just at the moment when my opponent is about to serve an important point or game,
2) pump my fists on every single point won and yell "come on" the loudest I can if my opponent double-faults,
3) argue with the umpire whenever a ball bouncing in a zone of 2 inches around the line is not called in my favor,
4) grunt like a pig,
5) change my racquet before my opponent is about to serve on a break-point.

If all of this is not enough and I still lose the match, then I would remind in all my press conferences for the two next years that I couldn't even play at 50% of my abilities on that day. Maybe I would even invent that someone kidnapped me and that the person on court was just a doppelganger.

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I think it WOULD BE disgusting on a normal circunstance, but then, I've seen Venus and Serena LOTS of times shouting come ons on letcords and double faults from their opponents, so it's a bit of a payback. It's not acceptable, but Serena cannot complain

And Maria was gutted coz of Serena's behaviour, coz Serena apparently could barely walk, and then she ran from side to side of the court like nothing had happened. I'm not saying Serena wasn't injured, coz she couldn't serve, but she was overdoing coz she was moving fine, which is normal in abdominal injuries. Serena took advantage of a stunned Sharapova to win 4 games in a row, and if you are really that bad you should retire

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When she does a Venus, and refuses to make an apology for receiving net cords, then I will criticize her.

She had to keep herself motivated after all she was playing an opponent who would resort to any measure for victory (including feigning injury AGAIN)
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I think it WOULD BE disgusting on a normal circunstance, but then, I've seen Venus and Serena LOTS of times shouting come ons on letcords and double faults from their opponents, so it's a bit of a payback. It's not acceptable, but Serena cannot complain

And Maria was gutted coz of Serena's behaviour, coz Serena apparently could barely walk, and then she ran from side to side of the court like nothing had happened. I'm not saying Serena wasn't injured, coz she couldn't serve, but she was overdoing coz she was moving fine, which is normal in abdominal injuries. Serena took advantage of a stunned Sharapova to win 4 games in a row, and if you are really that bad you should retire
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I think Maria cheers because she wins a point, not because her opponent loses one. It's still not acceptable behaviour but I think she'll get rid of it with time.

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Serena was moving fine? Hmmm....yeah, when she only had to hit two or three balls to win the point.

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I think Maria cheers because she wins a point, not because her opponent loses one. It's still not acceptable behaviour but I think she'll get rid of it with time.
I hope so, it´s really annoying, but I am positive.
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Maybe if some of who are so critical take a look back at players who have had abdominal injuries they would realize that it mainly affects the serve. That was obvious too with Serena last night. Ask Kim about it. She will tell you about last year's Wimbledon match with Venus. Everything else was okay except the serve. And I would challenge anyone to even think that that injury to Venus was fake. The results cannot be changed, Maria won. No-one will know what the result would have been had not there been the injury, but I honestly dont think Serena would have gone down without a fight. She had the upper hand up to that point and whether the want to admit it now or not it was obvious that Maria was showing negative body language too. Congrats on your win Maria, but for your sake I hope you or someone in your large entourage can talk some sense and civil conduct into your dad. Otherwise he will be the downfall of your tennis career like so many other players dads have been.
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worldwar - yes, the sisters do it too , but for an obviously hurt and in-pain opponent ? Never. Sharapova was classless last night (and i do LIKE her & her game). She's just a kid, though. And no, she shouldn't have retired.
Remember the Venus/Cljisters ab injury? Venus's camp told her to 'fight thru the pain' during break and she did, and won. It's not in the WS repetoire to give in to an injury that still allows them to somewhat function on court.

Quasimodo - you actually think SW faked the injury and continued with the charade by serving down, from 120's to 70's mph - JUST to proceed with the farce ??
lmao ! and when she was leveled at 4-4 in the final set, she STILL stuck to her "fake injury" plan and lobbed her serves in for the final games instead of firing a 125?

ab injury affects 'up and down' movement, not side to side.
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Nope I didn't say that SW faked her injury, she had a problem for sure, but it's possible that she overacted it, I don't know, and in fact, I don't really care.

In my post I was rather thinking of Justine...

And personally, I don't anymore give a sh*t to fairplay. Almost all of these top-players have shown some behaviors that people on this board qualify "classless". Since evryone is in the same case, then I consider it's part of the game. May the better win.
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I think it WOULD BE disgusting on a normal circunstance, but then, I've seen Venus and Serena LOTS of times shouting come ons on letcords and double faults from their opponents, so it's a bit of a payback. It's not acceptable, but Serena cannot complain

And Maria was gutted coz of Serena's behaviour, coz Serena apparently could barely walk, and then she ran from side to side of the court like nothing had happened. I'm not saying Serena wasn't injured, coz she couldn't serve, but she was overdoing coz she was moving fine, which is normal in abdominal injuries. Serena took advantage of a stunned Sharapova to win 4 games in a row, and if you are really that bad you should retire
I have NEVER seen Venus or Serena cheer. Smirk, maybe, but cheer, absofuckinglutely not.
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It's unfortunate that Serena was not in the best of shape/health. Now she can use that misfortune to justify her loss to Maria again.
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