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Red face Martina, that was NOTHING !

I'm really shocked about the shameful performance Martina delivered today. That has nothing to do with the fact that Daniela won, even if she had choked and lost the match I would write this.

I mean, was it her game-plan to play EVERY damn ball in the middle of the court, in comfortable height so that Daniela can put them away ? I don't think so. In fact it looked like she didn't have ANY game-plan. She did EVERYTHING wrong:

She showed no motivation.
She looked frustrated.
She didn't change anything during the match.
She seemed to be pessimistic from the beginning.

She did everything to make Daniela look good. Does she expect that she would beat Lindsay, Venus, Serena, Jennifer with a performance like that ? It looked like SHE was the newcomer, totally overwhelmed by the occasion.

To summarise: It was just dumb play. From now on I have even more doubts that Martina will win another big title.

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Daniela was just too good today!

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No, that's not true. Daniela had a lot of errors. She was beatable.
But not with such a bad performance. It seemd like it was Martina's aim to play exactly how Daniela likes it, and that's a shame for a former no. 1 who is often called the smartest player on tour.
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To me - Martina didn't do anything differently than the other players did. She played well, but Daniela played better. Martina hit some interesting shots, but they just weren't enough to take out this young woman. Daniela won this match outright. Martina didn't hand it to her by giving her easy balls to put away.

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nikita - Any ball within the sidelines that bounced higher than the top of the net was an 'easy ball to put away'. That was the problem.
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No, Daniela didn't play superbly. She played good, missed a lot but also played with good pressure. And she put away those shots you have to put away when playing against a good player. Of course, everyone but Hingis saw after one game that hitting short balls in the middle, for Hantuchova's backhand to kill off, was a bad idea.
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Daniela played amazing good you goofy people, and you should respect that !!!!!
She gave Hingis a Tennis Lesson !!!!
Well done Daniela, you are a true champion!!!!

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Yeah that's why I said Martina will now know a little bit more of her game. I think when she is getting beaten pretty badly she doesn't always think so clearly about how to change the strategy and then when she changes it around she misses one and abandons the plan. She really did well coming to the net but I think she feels that it can only be an occasional sneak play but really she should be doing it on about a third of the points instead of 10%. She will have time to think about this player and how to handle her.

Martina lost five in a row to Lindsay and then started beating her and then lost three in a row to jenn, then had match points but still lost it but had at least showed me that she knew how to play her.
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You know, Martina is neither Gaglardi nor Raymond NOR Henin.

She is a former no. 1 with one hell of experience.

When there's a young who is trying to blast her away, you expect that Martina comes up with ideas to change the pace, attack etc.
You don't expect that she just goes on with her game and waits what will happen. But that's exactly what she did.

What disturbs me the most is that she didn't BELIEVE in victory one single time. She had 40-15 leads in service-games multiple times and lost it. That indicates no confidence. But WHY ? Daniela's results so far were not that intimidating.
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It is true that Daniela had lots of errors, but she had lots of winners too..
She basically played aggressive through out! She did not hold back except the 2 games before she finally closed out the very last game to win the match.

Well.. it is nothing new with Martina lately.. she has been having trouble with her mental game.. not having the edge in that area kills her.
Hopefully she'll find her true self soon!

But.. tumbs up for Daniela! Good performance today!
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I forgot: It's one thing to change your tactics during a match when losing, but come on, Daniela's game wasn't unknown before the match ! Evberyone knew that she had a fabulous backhand.
Martina should have had a proper tactic from the beginning of the match to avoid that shot.
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post #12 of 36 (permalink) Old Mar 17th, 2002, 02:38 AM
 
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I can't believe I'm defending Martina after she beat Monica but ...

She showed no motivation.

I don't think so.

She looked frustrated.

Wouldn't you ?

She didn't change anything during the match.

That's not fair - she started going to net a bit more and going for her shots but I agree she left it until like the last two games or something.

She seemed to be pessimistic from the beginning.

I don't know - she was smiling and set, but after Daniela started blasting all those winners and it was clear that Martina's game plan was not going to work, I think she did lose the plot a bit.


My conclusion : it was not Martina's best performance, but frankly Daniela played the match of her life so far so I think we can forgive Martina for being just a little shellshocked.
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It was Martina's fault she lost. She just wasn't the same player who beat Monica the day before. I am a Daniela fan, but I expected to see her defeated today. Instead Martina blew it, and has lost some of the hard-won credibility she was building up.

GoDominique is right, she just kept hitting balls down the centre of the court, getting them back in play, hoping that Daniela would fall apart and make the errors.

Instead Daniela stayed in the rallies until she could blast an unreachable winner into one of the corners. By the time Martina changed her tactics and started hitting harder and coming in, she was two breaks down in the final set.

Daniela might have been beatable today. her serve wasn't working at all. She usually gets around six aces a match and a lot of service winners. What she proved is that she can win without her big serve working for her.

Martina fell back into her old ways today. Hopefully she knows it, and why she lost. I think she went into this match too desperate for a Tier 1 title, and froze.

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Well.. these things happened...

That is why people watches tennis.. because unexpected things could happen on court.... Nobody would care if the same people win all the time..

Martina.. should get over this...
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I wouldn't say anything if this was the first loss of that kind, but it's not. Martina should have learned already that playing like a coward won't bring her titles.
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