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Time is running out for Williamsx2

Serena will be 23 years old next week, Venus is already 24 years 3 months.

Since 1988 (when the Evertilova era came to an end) only about 30 % of slam winners were 23 or older.
And only 20 % were older than Venus today.

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And a healthy 28 yr old Californian is the best player on tour right now....

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"And for the best of the teen-agers who followed her, and who occasionally referred to her as over the hill, Graf had a ready answer: against top-ranked Martina Hingis, Graf wound up 7-2. Graf's stirring 4-6, 7-5, 6-2 throttling of Hingis at the French Open final this June was perhaps the most emphatic parting shot the game has ever seen. "


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Serena will be 23 years old next week, Venus is already 24 years 3 months.

Since 1988 (when the Evertilova era came to an end) only about 30 % of slam winners were 23 or older.
And only 20 % were older than Venus today.

Guess that leaves out a Steffi Graf come back than.
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hey what % of Slam winners have been black? I bet that percentage is pretty low as well. I figure if they can beat those odds they can beat any odds...
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And a healthy 28 yr old Californian is the best player on tour right now....
Not the best argument for winning Slams though
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Serena will win another slam next year don't worry.

And if Venus gets that forehand straight she will win at least 2 slams next year.


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Guess that leaves out a Steffi Graf come back than.

Hmmm - Graf was responsible for half of the old-timers (= older than Serena today) wins in 88-04. Without her the stats would be even more damning for the 23+ generation ...
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hey what % of Slam winners have been black? I bet that percentage is pretty low as well. I figure if they can beat those odds they can beat any odds...

And they beat the odds that girls called "Venus" and "Serena" never ever had won slams before!
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Graf was responsible for half of the old-timers (= older than Serena today) wins in 88-04
HUH.She was 19 in 88!You consider 19 an old timer,eh....and didn't she retire in 99?
After all her slams wins would have been reduced had Moni been around!!
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And they beat the odds that girls called "Venus" and "Serena" never ever had won slams before!
exactly so what are you worried for?
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HUH.She was 19 in 88!You consider 19 an old timer,eh....and didn't she retire in 99?
After all her slams wins would have been reduced had Moni been around!!

What about "Graf was responsible for half of the slams 23plus-year-old players won in 88-04" didn't sink in?

BTW, Moni won 2 of her 9 slams with Graf sidelined (= 22 %).
And Graf won 6 of her slams with Moni sidelined (= 27 %).
Big deal ....

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exactly so what are you worried for?

Beating all those odds doesn't mean that you continue beating all odds.
The odds tell me that you won't beat the odds all the time.

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They're already in the Hall of Fame whether they never win another title again. So the success that they have had is more than satisfactory, even if they never won a slam again.


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Serena will be 23 years old next week, Venus is already 24 years 3 months.

Since 1988 (when the Evertilova era came to an end) only about 30 % of slam winners were 23 or older.
And only 20 % were older than Venus today.

Calimero377, clearly you are attempting to pose a question. For the sake of expediency and to avoid misinterpretation...
...What is that question.
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Come on Vee & Rena!



Venus, left, and her sister Serena Williams are all smiles while shooting a public service announcement for World Children's Day at McDonald's benefitting Ronald McDonald House Charities on Monday, Sept. 13, 2004, in New York. World Childrens' Day at McDonald's, which will be celebrated Nov. 18-20, has raised $27 million in the past two years to benefit Ronald McDonald House Charities and other children's causes around the world. (AP Photo/McDonalds, Henny Ray Abrams)

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