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post #1 of 55 (permalink) Old Sep 7th, 2004, 02:16 PM Thread Starter
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Do You think Momo would deserve the number spot if she doesn't win the tournament ?

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no one deserves no1 without ever winning a slam.
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the rankings do not lie

mauresmo may not have been spetacular in the last 12 months but she's been extremely consistent and thats enough to get to number 1

i personally dont think she deserves it, but then i remind myself 'the rankings do not lie'
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numbers are numbers. The no. 1 is about being a consistent player during a whole year. If she get it, good for her
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Of course she does. Otherwise she wouldn't have gotten there in the first place.
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no one deserves no1 without ever winning a slam.
does that mean if you win a slam, then you should be number one. Bull shit.

Another stupid thread bout undeserving number one.

Even if Momo does not win the grand slam, and still be #1. She's definately earn it. Whether you like or not.



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So apparently the definition of being number one must be defined. IMO a number one should be

1/ Consistant the whole year
2/ Winning Grand Slams

The problem this year is that nobody can't pretend to be like that on the Tour. Justine didn't play that much because of illness, Sharapova & Myskina had a lack of consistency.

Momo is the total contrary of them : consistent but not winning big Slams. She's in the same case of Lindsay, but Lindsay is even more consistant than Momo, if u look at their records :

Mauresmo : 53/10 (including Hopman Cup)
Davenport : 58/6

Conclusion : Momo would deserve it IMO only if she wins it. But if Lindsat wins that US Open and still doesn't get the Number 1, the WTA will have to find a solution, because that'd make no sense that a player who didn't win any Slams in her career would become number one, even for a week. The specialists will know why but the general crowd won't understand it.

What's the more important ? To win the final of Montreal against Likhovtseva or to win a hard level fight in the last 16 against Venus Williams ?
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does that mean if you win a slam, then you should be number one. Bull shit.

Another stupid thread bout undeserving number one.

Even if Momo does not win the grand slam, and still be #1. She's definately earn it. Whether you like or not.
no i'm just saying no1 players should be able to win slams
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peoples attitude has changed, u don't have to be a grandslam champion to be considered number 1. u don't even have to get to the finals. u just have to play so much and win so much even w/ the fact of loosing in GrandSlams, u can stil become number 1.

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Yes she does.

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does that mean if you win a slam, then you should be number one. Bull shit.

Another stupid thread bout undeserving number one.

Even if Momo does not win the grand slam, and still be #1. She's definately earn it. Whether you like or not.
Exactly. Well said!
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Your ranking is one thing and your ability is quite another.
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Originally Posted by HoOvErPhOnIc
does that mean if you win a slam, then you should be number one. Bull shit.

Another stupid thread bout undeserving number one.

Even if Momo does not win the grand slam, and still be #1. She's definately earn it. Whether you like or not.
Quite. As this year, probably for the first time in a long time, we are going to have 4 different slam winners, it kind of makes a mockery of that arrogant and narrow opinion that you must win a slam to "deserve" being number 1! Those with that belief: shall we declare four number ones this year?

The situation this year shows the importance of CONSISTENCY as a measure of greatness and everyone who derided Kim last year could be asked to start eating those words now.

So, yes, Amelie does deserve number 1, however the points come to her!

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Of course she does if she gets the points she gets the position end of story!
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Quite. As this year, probably for the first time in a long time, we are going to have 4 different slam winners, it kind of makes a mockery of that arrogant and narrow opinion that you must win a slam to "deserve" being number 1! Those with that belief: shall we declare four number ones this year?

The situation this year shows the importance of CONSISTENCY as a measure of greatness and everyone who derided Kim last year could be asked to start eating those words now.

So, yes, Amelie does deserve number 1, however the points come to her!
yeah that is true, this year you have the ability to argue that, but the sad thing is, we all know, when it comes down to how the "ranking system" actually works, had someone besides justine won 2 slams or more, justine could still have kept her number 1 ranking etc, had she not been out.

think of it people, justine is loosing her ranking b/c she lost, but on top of that, the majority of the points she lost was due to injury. about like Serena.

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