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Thumbs up Richard Strikes Black (Pun Intended) At Tracy Austin's Criticism Of Him and Oracene

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PAIN & GRIEF MAR VENUS' OPEN RUN
By MARC BERMAN

September 6, 2004 -- Venus Williams can talk all she wants about her injuries this year the sprained wrist, the bum ankle.



Following her third-round win over Chanda Rubin late Saturday night at Ashe Stadium, Venus got emotional on the court, talking about finally feeling right, feeling "a lot more like I did before all the injuries."

But there's one wound that won't go away, one about which Venus is still reluctant to go into detail: The one-year anniversary of the shooting death of her half-sister, Yetunde Price, is coming up on Sept. 14.

Venus, who was closer to her older sister Yetunde than was the youngest Williams daughter, Serena, has never addressed the murder publicly.

When The Post asked 11th-seeded Venus about the significance of the anniversary, she said: "I talk about those things with close family and friends. I think it's inappropriate now."

But when asked if Yetunde is in her thoughts this week, Venus answered, "Always."

Today at the U.S. Open Round of 16 will be the seminal moment of Venus' comeback. Venus, who hasn't won a Grand Slam in three years, takes on the tour's hottest player, Lindsay Davenport. Venus has lost twice to Davenport this summer, including once in L.A. when she retired after her wrist pain flared.

Venus' father, Richard Williams, will discuss almost any subject but won't specifically address the effect of the family tragedy on his daughter's game. "It's too heartbreaking," he said. "It's the toughest thing in the world. Please don't even bring it up.

"If Venus wants to play, nobody can whup her," he added. "I don't care who it is. Nobody can beat Venus if she wants to play. But if Venus doesn't want to play and starts playing like she [did against Rubin], it will look like anyone would be in the wrong place, me or anyone else."

Williams was making reference to recent attacks by USA Network commentator Tracy Austin, who repeatedly criticized the Williams' parents for not hiring another tennis coach to work with their daughters' struggling forehands.

"I couldn't care what Tracy or anyone says," Papa Williams said. "When Venus and Serena were winning, there was something wrong. When they're losing, there's something wrong. Very honestly, it's a disgrace. I think it's a disgrace at how the system is against those two black girls. If they win, everything is wrong; if they lose, it's get rid of the parents. I just work for them. They've always wanted me around."

Papa Williams has long been a target for breaking tennis tradition, not having his girls play the junior USTA events, instead using marathon practice sessions on the cracked courts of Compton, Calif., to toughen them up.

Last week, Austin opined: "Both Williams sisters, their forehands break down. And their parents, Oracene and Richard, are not real tennis players, but have been their coaches basically their only coaches for the last five, six years. They've had plenty of hitting partners. But that's something I am starting to question.

"Why not go to a specialist if you have a little problem? Especially to me, when Venus and Serena are being coached by parents that didn't play the game."

Said Papa Williams: "When people try to break up unity between the family, it means they have a bad relationship with their family. It would be interesting to look at Tracy's family background. With statements like that, her family life must've been terrible."
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Richard, come on. A forehand coach will not break up any family unty.

At least now I know why V&S wont get outside coaching: They're either scared of what Richard will say or dont want the guilt that he will obviously place on them should they seek outside help. Ahhh....


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I don't see the need to make personal attacks on tracy
besides it is true that venus has problems with her forehand (and serena occasionally)
you know why the BOSS is no. 1?
besides her obvious talent, it is because she always seeks to improve her weaknesses, and she sure has come a long way

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Thanks for posting that I just started a thrend about comments Tracy just made. He is so right on they love letting those girls name come out their mouths and with some sort of bullshit behind it. I never hear them say comments like that about Jen. Just shut the fuch up and do your job Tracey before you be replaced.
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Preach Richard!! Tracy needs to shut the hell up.

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I don't see how getting a professional to fix a flaw in Venus' forehand is earth shaking. And if Richard doesn't want Venus going for outside help, then he should FIX IT HIMSELF.
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Richard, come on. A forehand coach will not break up any family unty.

At least now I know why V&S wont get outside coaching: They're either scared of what Richard will say or dont want the guilt that he will obviously place on them should they seek outside help. Ahhh....
I don't know if your second statement is true, but I do know this much. Apparently what Richard said bothered Tracy enough to bring it up tonight during the mixed doubles match. She said she laughed off what he said about her family, but if what he said was ridiculous, then why is ste still talking about it, along with Ted's dig in about Richard having the nerve to talk about family with his history.
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How does Tracy hate on the WS? Is it just her opinion on them needing outside coaching? If so, why is that considered hateful? I don't get any coverage, so I'm in the dark, but what exactly is wrong with saying that in particular?
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Nice one Richard. I would love to hear what Tracy says in response. My guess is she will STFU about Venus and Serena!
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u tell her richard
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It would be interesting to look at Tracy's family background. With statements like that, her family life must've been terrible."

Clearly, Richard knows nothing about Austen's very close knit family.
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Lol Tracy said "Well I didn't expect him to personally attack me, but I think he's done a great job coaching his daughters, they just need someone to help with their forehands if they want to get back to #1, like I suggested for Hingis in 2001 when she was trying to improve her serve." (or something like that)

I must say, Tracy is right. To get back to the top, Venus and Serena need a coach other than their dad or mom to help with their forehands---particularly Venus.

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I don't see how getting a professional to fix a flaw in Venus' forehand is earth shaking. And if Richard doesn't want Venus going for outside help, then he should FIX IT HIMSELF.
That wasn't what he had a problem with. He (and I) have a problem with the fact that she always bring up the fact that Richard and Oracene were never professional tennis players and may not have what it takes to fix Venus' forehand. All I know is that Stefano Capriati didn't play poressional tennis and no one has ciritcized him on the flaws in Jennifer's game (like her serve).
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My problem with the negativity is that Tracy and the others don't do this bullshit to the other players. They get so negative even when Venus or Serena plays it's ridiculous. Tracy needs to shut the fuck up. I don't mind her analyzing the sister's game, but most of the time what is said behind the commentating booth when the sisters are playing is outright negativity.

Jen has not won a slam in years. I have not heard one negative thing about that at all. As a matter of fact the commentators bend over backwards to pump Jen up during her matches.

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tracy mentioned it tonight during the mixed dubs match and i don't remember exactly what she said but she did mention what richard said and she ended it off with she didn't have a bad childhood and she said while sorta laughing her parents didn't beat her
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