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So....What Do We Want Venus To Do?

That last game was hard to watch.

But after that last forehand went out, I thought, ok something has to give.

But what? I've always maintained that it was all in Venus's head. And that while better technique would help, it wasn't contingent for her to return to the top.

But I'm starting to wonder. Venus's forehand is so off and on. The swing just looks akward. And her serve could be soo much better. Lindsay proved that its better to hit 80% at 105 than 50% of 110.

Should she get a new coach? Should she tell Bonnie to take over Vstarr for a few months? A little of the above?

What does Venus need to do to get to the top?

*This is not meant to take anything away from Lindsay, who played near flawlessly*
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It's simple, Venus played well, Davenport played better. Venus had 5 chances that last game and fell prone to errors or a winner.

it's tennis some win, some lose. It's Davenports Summer, you have to give it up to her.

Hopefully Venus will work hard this off season and come back strong in 2005. She's still my #1 Fav

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Her problem is still mental. Confidence just isn't there. Have you seen some of her forehand winners? She had 22, Davy had 8 (forehand winners only).

Unfortunately, I am not smart enough to say what she should do.

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She needs to execute, all those short balls on the BH and FH side dumped into the net or hit long.
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I think hiring a new coach for a little while might help. I think with improvement on her serve and forehand the confidence will come.

Everyone (commentators and fans) think she needs to improve her flawed technique. I hope she heeds to the advice. If not, she will just remain a 4 slam champ.

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I agree with what Tracy Austin has been saying all week...It's time for Venus to look to someone outside the family to help her with the forehand, second serve and how to construct points. Her mother and father have done a great job with both girls, but they need help from someone else as a lot of players have caught up to Venus and Serena's power, and just aren't afraid of them anymore.
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She should get an experienced Coach to teach her how to hit a Forehand Properly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 HER Technique Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 Poor THing! LOL
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That last game was hard to watch.

But after that last forehand went out, I thought, ok something has to give.

But what? I've always maintained that it was all in Venus's head. And that while better technique would help, it wasn't contingent for her to return to the top.

But I'm starting to wonder. Venus's forehand is so off and on. The swing just looks akward. And her serve could be soo much better. Lindsay proved that its better to hit 80% at 105 than 50% of 110.

Should she get a new coach? Should she tell Bonnie to take over Vstarr for a few months? A little of the above?

What does Venus need to do to get to the top?



*This is not meant to take anything away from Lindsay, who played near flawlessly*
Lindsay did play great. Especially her serving. But Venus has said that she doesn't want a coach who is going to talk about tennis all the time. So she's kind of stuck with Richard and Oracene who clearly can't fix the problem. Maybe Venus doesn't mind staying where she is.

Some folks stay in denial. Hingis was in denial about her serve. Oh well....
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Fix her fucking forehand.


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Lindsay played better, the difference in the match was she broke Vee's serve twice. Vee is too talented to lose due to her forehand, she was playing so well and her game was fairly clean, but as usual when points got tight her forehand let her down.
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While Lindsay beat Venus, Venus was out there really not picking up on what was going on.

Why she stands inside the baseline when she's not returning serves is beyond me.

John McEnroe made a point saying two things.

1) Venus moves her body too much when hitting her shots. She needs to stay in her tuck and finish the stroke, BEFORE moving to the center court
2) Venus needs not to try to hit a flat forehand from random spots in the court, its not neccesary
3) Venus needs to moderate her shots untill the the right time

However I did see some positives
1) Venus accelerating on her 2nd serve
2) Venus at least going for the forehand (although often at the wrong time)
3) Venus coming to net (though she stopped in the 2nd)
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Venus I hope does two things this year. Play a lot in the indoor season she will build confidence for it each win she gets.

Also which we know she wont do hire a new coach. That last game show glimes of Venus of old but her low confidence did not ler her out the game to bed.
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Hopefully Venus will take some good things away from the match,

Lindsay was on fire, but Venus hung in there. She should gain some confidence, especially if Lindz kills to the title.

Tough match Vee...but you got plenty of time to improve. DON'T give up

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Venus was playing hit or miss tennis.

But the difference between this years hit and miss and that of 2000, 2001, and even 2002 for that matter, hell even 2003, she waited untill the appropriate time.

She hit some crazy winners, but It doesn't make sense to hit 3 or 4 wow shots when you sacrifice 10 shanks
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I wonder if Richard or Oracene have ASKED Venus whether or not she'd want outside help
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