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www Singapore RR: Halep vs Garcia

WWW Singapore RR: Halep vs Garcia

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#1 ·
H2H: 2:1 for Halep, last match they both played was against each other in Beijing 2 weeks ago :spit:
 
#11 ·
IDK how Halep will play now that she is #1 with a chance for YE #1. This is a huge match because its not easy to sweep the other 2 in this group on slow hard court, where they thrive
 
#13 · (Edited)
Simona is usually a slow-starter. She needs 1-3 matches to get into match form. Too many times she's not prepared for her matches. Unfortunately. :sad: This year she somewhat corrected (during the clay season), and the results were immediately coming. :yeah: Still for the US Open series she reverted back to her unprepared and slow-starting tennis. :facepalm: When she's slow and unprepared, she plays max. Top 50 tennis. The current Garcia is definitely better than that.
In the last 2 years Simona managed to lose in the RR stage to Aga Radwanska and Cibulkova. In the end both girls won the YEC title. The big question is if she now has really grown up, or are still giving champion chances to others (Garcia? Wozniacki? Svitolina?). Her mindset can be checked very soon as the match started.
 
#14 ·
Heart says Halep but mind says...otherwise. Simona has been doing a loooot of press these days, also I think it was a very bad idea to not bring Andrei Pavel along.
She talks just like she did after Miami, saying something changed in her mindset, etc, and then she goes and proves herself wrong.
She played many matches this year where she had so much going for her, so many reasons to want to win and then she checked out of the game...so, we'll see.
 
#23 ·
As long as she affords to play without being prepared, she can lose to almost anybody - not to speak about the Top 10 players. (It is another question, if she starts to play her important matches with the proper mindset and tactics. Then she'll become a much better player.)
 
#28 ·
That were the times when i thought of some pushers as being decent players, untill i realized i was in a delusion. But i would rather be an unreasonable person who likes seeing more agressive decent players winning and saving tennis nowadays. :spit:

Those time you are remembering are long gone, luckily for me i opened my eyes! :yeah:
- Simona is not a typical "pusher".
- Actually, the stronger/taller players are pushing more, because pushing strongly enough needs much more strength compared to hitting. (In this respect even Serena Williams is a pusher compared to Camila Giorgi!)
- Decent players are those, reaching decent results, measured by the ranking system.
- Decent players are winning more matches, and suffering less defeats. Those hard hitters playing with uncontrolled aggression rarely fall into the "decent" category: they can rarely repeat their occasional good results.

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VOCABULARY:
- "hitting": the racket is accelerated to the maximal hitting speed BEFORE it gets into contact with the ball.
- "pushing": the racket AND the ball are accelerated TOGETHER while they are in contact.

Because during the pushing process there is a SHORTER RACKET ACCELERATING TIME AVAILABLE, and because THE BALL IS NOT COMPRESSED AS MUCH AS in the hitting process, it is harder to give the same speed to the ball, but on the other hand, BETTER ACCURACY can be achieved (because the ball is not deformed), and a LARGER PART of the tennis court can be reached (because of the better speed control). Also, with pushing you give LESS INSIGHT to your opponent where do you want to direct the ball. In short: PUSHING IS A SUPERIOR TECHNIQUE, thought, it needs much stronger physique. (==> Most TF forumers have no idea about these things...)
 
#30 ·
As usual, the WTA messed up again with the scheduling.

The World #1 should have opened the YEC tournament, but the clueless WTA puts her on the 2nd day. :smash:
 
#32 ·
Meanwhile, Ostapenko can be described as a counterpuncher - after all, her signature is surprise changes of direction of her shots and making passing shots while on the run.

Of course, the counterpunches are knockout blows. Haymakers? Maybe stretching the analogy too far ;)

I went with Garcia because she is in form, no philosophical objection to Halep's game.
 
#34 ·
I think Ostapenko's tennis is still changing. (At 20 it is absolutely natural.) The most surprising thing in her tennis (if you ask me) is that she uses (usually) more powerful shots, than the others would use in her place. (Most balls can be hit with different strength, depending on when and how the shot was made.) The closest player to this is Dominika Cibulkova, with the following important differences:
- Dominika is a very short girl (1.61m), and for a short girl the powerful shot-making is much harder, because of very simple geometrical reasons. (This is especially clear at serving, or when making finishing shots.)
- Dominika has smaller body (muscle amount), therefore in longer matches she can run out of energy.
- Dominika senses VERY-VERY WELL what is the applicable biggest power with her FOREHAND. If a ball flies high enough, Dominika will hit it with power, but if the ball is low/flat, she will return it patiently (and CONSISTENTLY).
- On backhand side she doesn't have this "well maximized power".

From Ostapenko's side, she is taller, stronger, and almost equally good at BH. But she's not evaluating well enough how much power, or with what technique the given ball should be handled. Against Muguruza she did NOT show her best tennis.

Garcia is also building her tennis on big shots, especially when serving. She's tall enough for that. But this is only one part of tennis. Maybe the most spectacular part.
 
#39 ·
i'll say Halep, she has more experience at a wta finals than Garcia, it is good that Garcia has won titles but the pressure might get to Caro for being too inexperienced at a huge tournament like this one


and Halep will be extra motivated i think
 
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