Tennis Forum banner

What's to come for Julia Görges?

5K views 58 replies 39 participants last post by  Walsingham 
#1 ·
we all know gorges is the definition of perseverance.

a few years ago she used to be counted by tennis experts as a real force, almost there but never there, BUT NOW we can actually witness her being there in the group of inform players and winning big titles and that's a great thing, she has an interesting game to watch and is another interesting character on the tour.

will she be the next big thing? let's point 4 things out:

_ she's gorgeous [ivanovic replacement]
_ her game is like a mix of dementieva with hantuchova
_ she's the only player right now on tour that is kind to everyone (since clijsters, never seen a nicer player at the net)
_ and she's playing probably the best tennis of ther life

this thread's intention is not to jinx her game, but to analyze the probabilities of her future.

what's to come for her? will she be a contender for future slams in 2018?

or will she succumb to pressure and get back to ITF's?
 
See less See more
#2 ·
IMO she is one of those veterans that seem to have stabilised their level, but that could have one Kerber type year if they a) stay healthy for a couple of years b) have a good coaching situation c) get a little lucky in the draws to build confidence for the rest of the year

Not saying this one great year will ever happen, or that it means multiple slams, but top 5 for a period? I could definitely see that - and 2018 seems like a big chance with the way 2017 is finishing.

Thing is, I could say the same for Pavlyuchenkova, Cornet, even Cirstea - as well as many of the little bit younger, early-20s players. Even if Görges steps up her level, her ranking may not increase much if everyone else around her does the same.
 
#34 ·
I wouldn't like to use Kerber as part of this assessment. Kerber was solid top ten between 2012 and 2015 and top five on one or two occasions, so the potential was always there to win a major tournament. Also, Kerber has been constantly in finals before the 2016 Australian Open final, in big venues like Cincinnati in 2012 for instance. I also saw Kerber down in Eastbourne in 2012 and 2014 finals.

I don't recall Julia ever being in the top 10 or being in important finals so that would be a huge jump. First she must establish herself as a top 10 player and then get confidence to tackle big tournaments.

However, I have seen Julia play live and part of her lack of consistency could be down to the fact she is not a naturally quick athlete unlike Kerber who is, the best players are usually the sharpest in thought process and speed around the court. So that's what Julia needs to work on to get to the next level, if she wants it of course, she is talented no question.
 
#4 ·
Nothing She will fold like a cheap tent in pressure moments like usual Or When She plays a top player.

Wasn't impresse with who She Beat This week.
Its like Martha winning Tianjian.
 
#5 ·
you can't deny this is her best year.

she reached 4 finals, her best ever.
 
#6 ·
_ she's gorgeous [ivanovic replacement]
Irrelevant.

_ her game is like a mix of dementieva with hantuchova
Odd comparisons. She hits much less flat than either of those and has a much better serve. Her technique is much less smooth than Hantuchova's and her groundstrokes less balanced but more powerful.

_ she's the only player right now on tour that is kind to everyone (since clijsters, never seen a nicer player at the net)
Aside from this being ridiculous speculation, it's not even true - I've seen her give plenty of sour handshakes, and she's the only player I've seen have the audacity to tell off a crowd after losing.

what's to come for her? will she be a contender for future slams in 2018?
I don't get why winning Moscow makes you leap to Slams. Moscow and a bunch of MMs don't indicate Slams. I mean...did you think Gavrilova was suddenly a Slam contender after winning Moscow last year? This is a huge reach.

or will she succumb to pressure and get back to ITF's?
She's played one ITF (in 2014) since 2010 so this is a huge reach in the other direction.

She'll be the dangerous floating top 30-60 player she's been all decade.
 
#7 ·
If she maintains this level she's a lock to make Top 10 in 2018. She has just a few points to defend at the beginning of the year and is 800 points away from #10 before having even played Zhuhai. It's too early to talk about slams, though.

But she's a headcase, so who knows if she'll keep it up :shrug:
 
#10 ·
Nothing at all. Her year is really, REALLY overrated. She vultured a few MM tournaments beating some scrubs in the process. She only had two good results at big events in 2017 (QF at Cincci and 4R at the US Open) and only 2 'significant' wins during the whole year vs 2 top 10 players (Wozniacki and Svitolina).

http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/players/player/profile.aspx?playerid=100040798

She should be top 30-40 with results like these but definitely not be ranked #18. :shrug:
 
#13 ·
Hard to say. Hopefully Julia can continue hard work, she will progress and we will see what happens with her results. This year was great for her and it will be tough to stay at this level.



Yeah sure, these "scrubs" are still better ranked than your fave, so what can you say about her. :scratch:
 
#11 ·
She is not gorgeous.
Will flop out of top 60 in next season.
Overranked atm.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sinjo
#12 ·
I remember these discussions took place when she won Stuttgart all those years ago - so we have been here before. The problem with Julia, like many players, she struggles to sustain this level for a long period of time & has the tendency to ‘fall cometh’.

Having said that I would not mind seeing Julia crack top 10 & go deeper into the slams - she has 2 premiers so it’s not out of the question. She’s proved to be successful on all surfaces.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Perun and Povin
#14 ·
In her supposed-to-be great year, her runs look random. Even right now in Moscow she faced #186 Monova, #53 Putintseva, #50 Tsurenko, #67 Vikhlyantseva and #28 Kasatkina, which is a really soft draw for a Premier run. If she is going to raise her level, she needs to show much greater depth into the big tournaments.

Only positive thing is that she won the final today in such a confident manner that she may have sorted out her demons. I might not be a fan of hers, but it is nice to see her on the winning side for once. :cheer:
 
#15 ·
Seriously who cares? Julia is known as the incosistent type and was able to win another Premier event after Stuttgart in 2011. This is just an incredibly achievement combined with another Top 20 ranking. Nobody, at least not me, is expecting a Kerber like year in 2018, she is a complete different player. Staying in the Top 15 to Top 25 range for the next two years paired with some nice tournament wins would seal the deal for a perfect career ending.
 
#16 ·
She's too old to do something relevant now. Don't take me wrong, she seems to be a nice person (although I really don't understand why people find her so beautiful, she's not even in the top 3 germans) and is certainly a nice addition to the German team (after all, not everyone can be a Graf or even a Kerber). Having some players like her, Carina, Laura, Petkovic and Sabine as supporting characters is nice for Germany. And she's a nice supporting character I should say. And honestly, I don't think she expects to win slams and everything. She's just happy to have some nice results and that's perfectly fine.
 
#20 ·
I think winning tournament like Moscow especially in such a manner is quite relevant :p Ok, unless only PM/Slams/YEC do count as such.
 
#21 ·
Well,it depends on the big names with history of winning big titles and if they step up. For the last year or so,women's tennis has been a crapshoot with many contenders for big titles,I mean you had Jelena Ostapenko winning the French Open as her first title! I think Goerges has shown much improved consistency and fitness and if she plays her best,she has a good chance against almost everyone on the tour so if a few things fall her way,who knows...
 
#22 ·
it's a bit odd to compare her to Dementieva and Hantuckova. she always reminded me of Ivanovic, - agressive from the baseline, great forehand, big serve - she pretty much has everything Ana has, plus a better backhand and a slightly better movement, so I don't see why she couldn't win a grand slam, especially nowadays when everyone can win a major.
 
#24 ·
She always did, when she was having a good day :shrug: And then she'd look like a BBB with no idea how to play the next week. Which she's done often this year. Her year overall has had more stability than the past few years but I wouldn't say her game has long-term stability built into it any more than previously.

I mean, people talk about her (MM) finals this year but a seven-tournament stretch in the middle of the year went like this for her:

R1 Roland Garros
F Mallorca
R1 Wimbledon
F Bucharest
R1 Bastad
F Washington
R1 Toronto

So no corner has really been turned for me. She'll have some good weeks and plenty of bad weeks like she usually does going forward.
 
#26 ·
Comparing Julia to Ana in terms of appearance just LOL. You cant compare anybody to Ana in terms of beauty. :smash:

Ana has also been throughout carreer much more accomplished player. Julia will remain quite overranked, never playing to its full potential and talent(which was anyway overestimated by so called experts). She is not even clutch or with steel nerves being a German, which also many German tennis commentaries like to brag about. Being German doesnt include it btw. and it certainly isnt the case with Julia.

However when having her lucky days and runs will claim a few more internationals here and there and thats it. As of slams she is as always to remain a non-factor. She can dream to have a carreer of for example Coconia which is quite a GOAT compared to her.
 
#28 ·
Quite an odd thread, talking about her like she's a newcomer/unknown quantity.
She's top 20 quality with worse results. But that's explained by her inconsistency which is also part of the game. I don't see Moscow as a turning point, she can hover around the top 20 and win more titles like this and make more deep runs in the bigger ones but she's not somebody I'd take a bet on. Hopefully she can snatch a slam QF before her career is over.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2_for_the_money
#30 ·
in this joke of an era? she will win more titles obviously as long as her balls go in for a change.
as if there wasn't a reason why she didn't win a title in 5 years, TF never fails to astound. :spit:
 
#36 ·
I wonder why you hate her so much. You're so pressed, I think she refused you once and that's why :wavey:
 
  • Like
Reactions: 69638
#33 ·
I'm not denying she's a very streaky player and as I've said before I'm not thinking that she will suddenly become a steady Top 10 player or something. I was just talking about her second half of the year where she was as consistent as she's never been before in her career. Reaching three finals, winning Moscow, second week at a slam, Cincy QF. And she never really did anything in the second half of the season, the first half was normally her stronger part of the year.

She wasn't as streaky as she usually is - since RG IMO. Ofc that doesn't say anything about next year, she can very well go back to flopping again, she definitely had some good draws as well lately.
Oh OK, I guess I agree with this. But there have been people, including the thread starter, talking about how she's suddenly a potential Slam winner, which...no.
 
#35 ·
Top 10 and more titles to come. Talented girl, such wasted these 6 years....
 
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top