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Official 2019: Madrid & Rome will last 10 days each, 96 draws

The president of the Italian tennis federation made the announcement today.

http://www.ubitennis.net/blog/2017/09/12/madrid-rome-set-become-mini-grand-slams-new-atp-schedule/
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Re: Official 2019: Madrid & Rome will last 10 days each, 96 draws

So, I guess the assumption is that the women will go to 96 as well? The story only mentions ATP...



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Re: Official 2019: Madrid & Rome will last 10 days each, 96 draws

Less hassle doing this in the ATP where Madrid and Rome are masters. In the WTA Madrid and Rome are different levels. Rome needs to be promoted first.

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Re: Official 2019: Madrid & Rome will last 10 days each, 96 draws

Wait so these titles are connected? as in same time equal prize money? If so they basically have to go bigger right? regardless of the WTA ranking points I would think.
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Creating mini grand slams or ten day events only confuses the general public. It's better to focus on having four grand slam events and recognize that other tournaments serve to help players prepare for them.
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Creating mini grand slams or ten day events only confuses the general public. It's better to focus on having four grand slam events and recognize that other tournaments serve to help players prepare for them.
That's not in ATP or WTA's interest as Grand Slams are not theirs.

So where will the events end up in the calendar? There aren't many weeks available during clay season.

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it's exciting
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Creating mini grand slams or ten day events only confuses the general public. It's better to focus on having four grand slam events and recognize that other tournaments serve to help players prepare for them.
Long term WTA will become like F1.

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Miami 14 days
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Rome 10 days
French Open 14 days
Wimbledon 14 days
Toronto/Montreal 10 days
Cincy 10 days
US Open 14 days
Tokyo 10 days
Beijing 14 days
YEC 10 days

15 tournaments.

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Re: Official 2019: Madrid & Rome will last 10 days each, 96 draws

Sounds a bad change if I'm honest. It basically means they will take up 4 weeks of the clay season themselves, doesn't leave a lot of room for much else or tournaments for any of the lower ranked players to play. This having super events format that both tours seem to be exploring screws lower ranked players badly.

From a fan point of view the slow pace of Indian Wells and Miami is quite annoying in the 2nd week, having 2 more events like that doesn't seem great.
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That's not in ATP or WTA's interest as Grand Slams are not theirs.

So where will the events end up in the calendar? There aren't many weeks available during clay season.
That's my point exactly. The ATP and WTA are acting in their own best interest, not in the general public's best interest.
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Sounds a bad change if I'm honest. It basically means they will take up 4 weeks of the clay season themselves, doesn't leave a lot of room for much else or tournaments for any of the lower ranked players to play. This having super events format that both tours seem to be exploring screws lower ranked players badly.

From a fan point of view the slow pace of Indian Wells and Miami is quite annoying in the 2nd week, having 2 more events like that doesn't seem great.
It also eliminates the B2B seven day P5/PM tournaments and reduces the B2B matches for the top players in these events. Therefore it will lessen the physical burden on the top players and incentivize them to put more effort into these events, instead of using them as purely prep events for the majors.

I am not a fan of the direction a lot of Maria threads have taken over the last 12 months.
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It also eliminates the B2B seven day P5/PM tournaments and reduces the B2B matches for the top players in these events. Therefore it will lessen the physical burden on the top players and incentivize them to put more effort into these events, instead of using them as purely prep events for the majors.
I accept the first point, and admit it wasn't something I really considered, but I'm not really buying the last point, I really don't see it making a difference to players mindsets at all. How often are players really using the big tour events purely as preparation and not really caring about winning. If you're feeling a little niggle, the grand slam is still going to be in 2 weeks to consider.

On a side note they're gonna have to be putting up a boatload more money to make this even close to sensible. Given Rome's prize money is already like half of Madrid's, are they really going to like treble their prize money? Because unless prize money is drastically higher than premier mandatories, what is the point?
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Re: Official 2019: Madrid & Rome will last 10 days each, 96 draws

Please dont shortened the grass season to give space to these GrandSlams wannabe! Rome yes, prestitgious.

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Re: Official 2019: Madrid & Rome will last 10 days each, 96 draws

I like the idea but I think MM should still be held parallelly, and they should offer mixed doubles at all events that go on for more than 7 days.
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