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Myskina Does it Again

Some people won't like me saying this. But a familiar pattern repeats itself. Myskina plays her guts out to eliminate her fellow Russians. Then as soon as she faces a top non-Russian player, she plays a half-hearted, unmotivated match and collapses.

A few days ago the threads were full of how Myskina is the only top Russian, she is the world beater and potential slam-winner. The others are all flukes and has-beens. I said then that I'd start to believe it when she won the title. As I expected, the old pattern recurred, and Myskina is blown away 6-1 6-1.

And if Nastya was tired, as some are saying, wasn't Lindsay tired after playing 3 weeks solid and reaching three finals. And she was injured too.

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Can you give us examples of this pattern please? When did she also first beat a fellow Russian and then lose in 2 easy sets?
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doc, i think you are being a TAD dramatic!! lindsay didnt give her a chance!
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So you're going to make me post this again by making a new thread? Okay, here was my reply to you in the other thread, Doc:

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I didn't realize that Chanda Rubin, Venus Williams, and Jennifer Capriati had suddenly become Russian. Thanks for making me aware of this fact. The only players Anastasia has been beaten soundly by this season are Jennifer Capriati on clay, Justine Henin-Hardenne (who was the dominant #1 at that point) at IW, and Lindsay Davenport (who is the dominant hardcourt player at the moment). She lost in tight straight sets to Clijsters and Mauresmo, the only other top players she's played this year.

Also, Lindsay jammed her knee yesterday. She was perfectly fine today, moving wonderfully.

I don't think ANYONE is going to be dominant any time soon. Anastasia is the best of the Russians at the moment, but nobody who's being realistic expects her to win everything. If you take issue to threads about Anastasia being the true Russian champion, maybe you'll think back to Wimbledon. Thread titles like 'Will Maria dominate the hardcourt season?' come to mind. Where was your indignation then? These things cut both ways... there are people who overhype players and those who will underrate them - true for both Myskina AND Sharapova, and everyone else for that matter.

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myskina should drink some more protein
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Face it! Myskina have a mental block on the Russians. That is a good thing.
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I didn't realize that Chanda Rubin, Venus Williams, and Jennifer Capriati had suddenly become Russian. Thanks for making me aware of this fact. The only players Anastasia has been beaten soundly by this season are Jennifer Capriati on clay, Justine Henin-Hardenne (who was the dominant #1 at that point) at IW, and Lindsay Davenport (who is the dominant hardcourt player at the moment). She lost in tight straight sets to Clijsters and Mauresmo, the only other top players she's played this year.
Myskina did get a couple of wins against good players on the clay of RG this year. However Chanda is not a top player at the moment, and Nastya's losses are far more numerous. The statistics bear out the truth of the comparison over her career head-to-heads with the current Top Tenners. the only ones she has a positive head-to-head against are the Russians.


Anastasia Myskina Head-to-Heads (WTA-4) 22-34 (39%)

Serena Williams 0-3 (0%)
Lindsay Davenport 0-4 (0%)
Amelie Mauresmo 1-6 (14%)
Justine Henin-Hardenne 2-5 (29%)
Jennifer Capriati 2-5 (29%)
Venus Williams 1-2 (33%)
Kim Clijsters 3-4 (43%)

Ai Sugiyama 2-2 (50%)

Elena Dementieva 5-3(63%)
Svetlana Kuznetsova 3-1 (75%)
Maria Sharapova 3-0 (100%)

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myskina should drink some more protein

From another thread, I heard she likes her coke, appartenly had 3 in a doubles match, maybe a late night the night before needs cafine more than protein.
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From another thread, I heard she likes her coke, appartenly had 3 in a doubles match, maybe a late night the night before needs cafine more than protein.
Someone should have had a 24 case of Coke by the courtside for Nastya. She needs her "spinach"!
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Lindsay didnt allow her to play well. She dominated throughout.

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I think the problem is a very draining night match the night before a noon start against Lindsay. I don't think Justine would've done so well if she had to come back after beating Jennifer in the USO semi the very next day at noon to play Kim.
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myskina should drink some more protein
you make no sense....

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if you saw the match it was quite obvious that nastya just couldn't compete at a high level today. she was always hitting the top of the net, a sign of fatigue, she wasn't bending her knees, she wasn't moving as well...... the girl had just been through a hell match the night before and had a hard time just coming down from such a high intensity. supposedly she received a massage after the match to try to loosen herself up after the match, but that didn't even do the trick. that is why she went to watch zvonareva in the doubles match, to try to take her mind off things and calm down... it was only after the doubles match that she was relaxed enough to even think about going to sleep. playing a fellow russian in a 2 hr. 45 minute match that goes to a 17-15 tiebreaker to decide the outcome about 14 hours before a final against a player in form like davenport is a near impossible task. you could see nastya try her best and she was trying to get motivated, but her body (and mind) just wouldn't let it happen...
also, i know she was beaten in a one-sided 6-1 6-1, but it wasn't as lopsided as it looked... myskina had break points on davenport's first 3 service games and, thanks to davenport's huge aces, all went to deuces... she did what she could but unfortunately her body wasn't ready for that match yet....
give the girl a break... i don't think any player in the world would be a well rested davenport after such a match the night before......
nastya is a fantastic player and she will be seeing davenport soon.... maybe in the u.s. open final when myskina will have a day's rest... then it will be a different story......

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Myskina Does it Again

She decks out all the Russians. What's wrong with that?
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Someone should have had a 24 case of Coke by the courtside for Nastya. She needs her "spinach"!

Yes, I thought coke was no longer permitted on the tour, obviously she's found a supplier. Terrible for the teeth though.
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