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Is 'One time slam champion' the new 'Slamless'?

Over the past decade we've had a lot of players win slams and then fail to do so again. It all started out with Ivanovic and then it was followed by the likes of Stosur and Pennetta. We've seen such players do well at slams time and time again, end up winning one eventually and then disappear or lack the results need to follow up their wins. So, what's the real difference between players who have won one slam and the ones who have managed to win two ore more if there's any? How will such players be seen and noted in the history books? And last but not least, how much of a factor is winning A ie. just one slam when it comes to comparing players' achievements.
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Really?

For players it's not about stats and history books. Everybody dreams to win a slam and the moment when you held trophy. People can talk all they like, but if you won a Slam you did it for that kid that dreamed.and nobody can take anything away from your success.
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1 slam>>>>>>>>>>>>>>no slam, still.


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1 slam>>>>>>>>>>>>>>no slam, still.
Yes, but let's take Halep for example. I mean comparing her to Pennetta. Does winning the USO really make Pennetta a better player than Halep or a more accomplished player than her? I am aware that 1 slam still tops 0 slams but still...
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Sorry, the Slamless Supremes (Radwanksa, Wozniacki, Halep) remain in a class by themselves. Stosur is a wannabe.
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Re: Is 'One time slam champion' the new 'Slamless'?

Winning a Slam is probably the greatest thing a tennis player can achieve. However if it's just about the only thing you achieved in your career I would rate many slamless players careers' above theirs. A career is more than just one glorious moment. How you compare between slamless and oneslammers exactly is of course entirely subjective.
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Yes, but let's take Halep for example. I mean comparing her to Pennetta. Does winning the USO really make Pennetta a better player than Halep or a more accomplished player than her?
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Yes, but let's take Halep for example. I mean comparing her to Pennetta. Does winning the USO really make Pennetta a better player than Halep or a more accomplished player than her? I am aware that 1 slam still tops 0 slams but still...
That's about the worst example you could have picked. Atm Pennetta and Halep are pretty close career wise but Pennetta has the edge with the Slam. A better example would be Dementieva/Wozniacki/Radwanska compared to Schiavone. Fran has the Slam but the three slamless had/have a far better career.
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That's about the worst example you could have picked. Atm Pennetta and Halep are pretty close career wise but Pennetta has the edge with the Slam. A better example would be Dementieva/Wozniacki/Radwanska compared to Schiavone. Fran has the Slam but the three slamless had/have a far better career.
Exactly. I mean I would put Dementieva above Schiavone (not literally) on the list of players with the most successful careers. Does winning a slam and then not doing much other than that make you a better player compared to someone who is more consistent results wise and wins big tournaments year after year?
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Halep's biggest title is Indian Wells, which Pennetta also owns. Pennetta is one of the stronger one slam wonders (behind Sabatini, Martinez, and Novotna). Majoli and Myskina are probably the weakest. Schiavone did reach a second RG final plus she had career longevity.
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Dementieva has gold and silver medals, which place her above the slamless.
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Does winning a slam and then not doing much other than that make you a better player compared to someone who is more consistent results wise and wins big tournaments year after year?
My answer would definitely be no.

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Schiavone did reach a second RG final plus she had career longevity.
The second final is without a doubt a great achievement but it's two brilliant moments in an otherwise pretty unremarkable career. Longevity is not the same as consistently on top for a long time. I know this is kinda ironic since she just won another title at age 36 but rankings wise you catch my drift.
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. Does winning the USO really make Pennetta a better player than Halep or a more accomplished player than her?
No. Not at all. It's obvious that the tour and a career are more than the majors. The thing is that for men a major is significantly harder because you have to win 3 at each step. For women they still have to win only 2. Physically majors are easier than PMs.

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