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How would Henin and Clijsters rank if they make a sudden comeback?

Chances would be one of the best now for them, the tour seems divided between two bodies, Serena and the rest with ocasional wins.

I know they won´t take the chance to be possibly humillated after their already succesful careers, but what if they really train hard a few months, get as fit as they can and announce a comeback??

Physically they might certainly be in disadvantage, but mentally and technically they are a name of themselves and could be the only challeges of Serena and specially the rest if they really get fit and motivated.

Commercially would be a boon for the WTA tour, Plagued by scandals and low interest given the unidimensionality of the tour

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Re: How would Henin and Clijsters rank if they make a sudden comeback?

Justine is about to turn 35 and Kim 34. At 29 both were more than done. There are older players out there including Serena and Venus but it would take a lot longer than a few months training. Clijsters has had 2 children. If they could come back at their peak then yes of course, they would be a threat but it's too late.
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Re: How would Henin and Clijsters rank if they make a sudden comeback?

Above Aga and Halep
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Re: How would Henin and Clijsters rank if they make a sudden comeback?

Jesustine 1, Kim 2 or 3. But there is always Serena around.

Don't care so much about rankings, But I'd like them to come back and do some slayings. Tennis lost a lot with their retirements.

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Jesustine 1, Kim 2 or 3. But there is always Serena around.

Don't care so much about rankings, But I'd like them to come back and do some slayings. Tennis lost a lot with their retirements.

Queen Juju could finally take her Wimbledon.
After the boring sisters AO17 final, It would be fantastic to see a Serena Henin final again
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Chances would be one of the best now for them, the tour seems divided between two bodies, Serena and the rest with ocasional wins.

I know they won´t take the chance to be possibly humillated after their already succesful careers, but what if they really train hard a few months, get as fit as they can and announce a comeback??

Physically they might certainly be in disadvantage, but mentally and technically they are a name of themselves and could be the only challeges of Serena and specially the rest if they really get fit and motivated.

Commercially would be a boon for the WTA tour, Plagued by scandals and low interest given the unidimensionality of the tour

What do you think?

Petkovic made the final of the Antwerp Diamond Games in 2015 and was scheduled to play Carla Suarez Navarro but CSN pulled out with an injury. Clijsters, the tournament director decided to play to give something for the crowd. She played an exhibition with Petkovic and won.

Kim Clijsters returns to beat WTA Diamond Games champion Andrea Petkovic in exhibition match | Daily Mail Online




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I'd say they could only do short term, especially Henin (physical issues forced her career to close)
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Petkovic made the final of the Antwerp Diamond Games in 2015 and was scheduled to play Carla Suarez Navarro but CSN pulled out with an injury. Clijsters, the tournament director decided to play to give something for the crowd. She played an exhibition with Petkovic and won rather convincingly.

Kim Clijsters returns to beat WTA Diamond Games champion Andrea Petkovic in exhibition match | Daily Mail Online




Funny trophy ceremony...
Now make them do that week in and week out and see how quickly they would retire. Playing one match is fine. Playing multiple matches in a week or 2 every other week on the tour is a whole other matter.

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Re: How would Henin and Clijsters rank if they make a sudden comeback?

Yeah, would be foolish to think both would have the body to still keep playing that level. I mean, Kim was already massively struggling in her last year and was barely playing. So I think this thread has no real point. Noone is denying that both would do extremely well in their prime in the current field, but this could be said about everyone actually, Davenport, Seles, Graf. But they are both too old and injury-prone.
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Yeah, would be foolish to think both would have the body to still keep playing that level. I mean, Kim was already massively struggling in her last year and was barely playing. So I think this thread has no real point. Noone is denying that both would do extremely well in their prime in the current field, but this could be said about everyone actually, Davenport, Seles, Graf. But they are both too old and injury-prone.

Unless there is a real serious permanent injury, maybe like Graf in the late 90´s, I think it´s still realistic to think there´s a small little chance for a comeback. The comeback itself and her last disapointing seasons are no big excuses, this would be a different tour and succesful comebacks are possible, the main problem I think would be age and motivation, they´re not too old to play but maybe too old to make a combeback after so long, but in this messy tour, their skills and consistence could be worth gold

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If they could they would.
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Unless there is a real serious permanent injury, maybe like Graf in the late 90´s, I think it´s still realistic to think there´s a small little chance for a comeback. The comeback itself and her last disapointing seasons are no big excuses, this would be a different tour and succesful comebacks are possible, the main problem I think would be age and motivation, they´re not too old to play but maybe too old to make a combeback after so long, but in this messy tour, their skills and consistence could be gold worth
at the same time both of them did come back and would not want to do it a second time.

Clijsters after having a child too, winning 3 slams (2 USO, 1 AO) on return.
Henin also had a decent comeback making the AO F immediately, even though she couldn't win a slam then.
So for the two of them they did enjoy time back in the sport and have absolutely no regrets having closed on such an amazing chapter of their lives. Clijsters is a proud mother and wife, same with Henin.

I would love Li Na to come back but that would be selfish of me. Li has done remarkable things in the later stage of her career and I would not have her suffer physically just to see her back in action. She is also a proud mother and wife. One day this will happen to everybody's favourites. We just need to savour the moments they provide for us.

I will point out that it is quite possible to keep playing well north of 35. Kimiko Date-Krumm's return is proof of that. Amazing how she's played to two very distinct eras, having faced Graf-Seles-Sanchez-Sabatini and then come back to play the William sisters and contemporary players. I think her days are coming to a close soon but she's enjoyed her time back, but few would want to.
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Re: How would Henin and Clijsters rank if they make a sudden comeback?

#10-#15 for Justine. #7-#15 for Kim.

There's more than enough room for random people to breakthrough at Premier Mandatories and Premier 5's, no reason that if Kim or Justine played they couldn't take advantage of it and get reasonable points.

It would also be reasonable to expect them to be around 3R-QF level at Slams.

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Some more deluded fans will think that they will be rank 1 and 2 (or somewhere at the very top). The fact is they are older now and, while I'm not saying they won't get to the top, it's very, very unlikely they will be at the very top.
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Re: How would Henin and Clijsters rank if they make a sudden comeback?

One thing is, if they would be around, especially Justine, certain players didn't reach slam SFs or Fs (let alone win them), wouldn't reach top 10 with 2-3 titles....the tour wouldn't be the mess it is now when good players began to flop.
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Re: How would Henin and Clijsters rank if they make a sudden comeback?

Looking at the way a retired tennis player and now mum, Clijsters embarrassed fully fit pro tennis player Petkovic a couple of years ago she would probably have some decent runs if she somehow managed to get match fit again.
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